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everyone Steve Spiegel CED director here
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uh say hello to everyone from around the
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world and thank you for joining us
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today uh I'd like to take a moment to
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now let's move on before we begin please
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suggestion to anyone who wants to ask a
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Institute of Peace where he manages a
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everybody in a first name so when I get
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the last name I sometimes mess it up so
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get to our program so let me uh turn
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first uh to start the program for
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thank uh thank you Steve and uh thank
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you everyone for joining uh what we will
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around uh post ceasefire order in the
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Gaza Strip uh Our Hope For This
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better understanding about what uh best
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to Future outcome for Gaza would be uh
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the actors who will play a role in
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shaping that uh future and the tools at
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Gaza of course in a process that um we
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will be held in Jordan this week will
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all in the same vote we are all this
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having said that uh we believe that
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informed by our future forward U
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understand how the interest and
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initiatives by different um uh Act s
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could be best coordinated once the war
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enters its next phase uh so to enrich
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this discussion we are happy to have a
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wonderful panel uh of experts uh and
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before uh talking about post ceasefire
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scenarios or the multiple uh Futures uh
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let us start by uh understanding where
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we are today uh I'm gonna uh start with
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you Brahim uh if you could um describe
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uh for us the um security and the
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humanitarian situation in Gaza and uh
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maybe give us your assessment about what
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this trip at this moment and maybe I'm
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going to add um another layer for um for
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this mix H if you could give us a peek
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conversation because I think it is
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directly uh linked to all what is taking
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place uh in gasa please preim
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hello thank you thank
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you thank youth for the
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introduction um yes I um I would
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actually have to say that in terms of uh
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first the humanitarian situation in Gaza
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part of the second question about the
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it's actually playing out specifically
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Strip right now I I think frankly it's
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just suffice to look at uh independent
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and reliable uh you know uh human rights
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uh un and many other sort of like
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sources and reports about uh the
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uh it's still far from actually being
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uh quite blunt statements about the dire
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uh more difficult uh the pier which was
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the uh the purpose in any efficient way
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so many countries and international
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organizations to actually alleviate and
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improve that reality and it's obvious
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hostilities this situation will continue
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to be challenging uh suffering will
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actually continue to be there and there
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will be no enough sort of like amount of
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circumstances now in terms of the
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internal security situation um you know
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among many other uh factors um you know
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anything that is identified with Hamas
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and that actually includes um some sort
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of uh you know like whether it's the
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Civil police or the um or the you know
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uh recently uh created Civil Society
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type of committies and emergency
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committies in Gaza which has Hamas
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elements in it they're still being
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targeted regardless of you know the the
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identity uh of these um formations uh
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which actually increases the problem of
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inter internal uh um you know um
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lawlessness um lack of security um law
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and order it actually has a big impact
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on uh looting anything that actually
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comes into the Gaza Strip um especially
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in certain parts where there's uh
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obviously no central control uh anymore
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um and that is a situation where I think
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uh more and more um uh attention needs
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to be paid uh to um you know the the
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process of delivering uh those uh um you
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know uh humanitarian needs to the Gaza
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population now in terms of the uh second
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part of the question Farah about the
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internal Palestinian political Dynamics
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um I think so far there is no uh one um
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uh uh unified um position on the um you
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know the post Gaza or the postwar uh
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scenario in the Gaza trip and if I may
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actually just say that you know we had
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uh one meeting that was held in in
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Moscow a few months ago there was a
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meeting that was held in China and there
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is another meeting that will be held on
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the 23rd of June uh in um in China and
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in fact there's a Chinese um high level
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Chinese um delegation that is actually
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visiting rala trying to basically get uh
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perspectives and views of different
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factions because the coming meeting is
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going going to be for all factions not
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only fat and Hamas and trying to unify
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uh you know like positions in
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preparation for that meeting but so far
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I think the truth uh is uh or the
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reality is that we don't really have a
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unified position Hamas continues to have
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its own conditions for um what it would
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take uh for
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anx in a post four scenario uh the PA
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has its own PA fat has its own uh views
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uh there is lots of support for um
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National consensus government that would
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be formed in consensus between Hamas fat
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and the other factions uh but I think
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that officially the the fat position is
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that we cannot have um a government that
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is condoned or has any uh connection to
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Hamas uh in the post October 7 reality
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uh whether that will change I doubt but
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uh that's the current uh Dynamic so
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although we have contacts that are being
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held um you know there seems to be uh no
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Clear Vision as to um you know like a
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unified
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Palestinian uh uh uh strategy towards
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the uh post warar scenario and the um
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you know the excuse or the way that it's
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actually explained is that so long as
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the war is Raging and there appears to
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be no um uh sight uh for or near sight
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or even medium term site for an end of
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War war and end of hostilities in Gaza
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uh the um the Moment of Truth does not
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uh seem to have come to decision makers
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whether it's you know like the fat you
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know on part of fat and the PA
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officially or on on on Hamas now the PA
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has formed a technocratic government um
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that has seven ministers from Gaza but
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all of them basically for now sit in uh
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in rala and without in my opinion uh
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without a level of understanding uh even
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a minimal level of understanding between
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the different players uh whether it be
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remains of Hamas Islamic Jihad and other
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factions uh in order to actually get the
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PA to uh uh to start operating in the
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Gaza Strip in a postwar scenario the
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situation will actually uh reflect
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extremely negatively on uh internal uh
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you know uh civil peace because you know
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at the end of the day uh I think that
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the PA is not in a good position to
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impose uh control on the the gste
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whether it's actually uh you know right
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now or in the post uh uh War scenario
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and I'm saying right now because an
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example uh to uh to that uh is the fact
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that the PA has not been able and did
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not actually accept although reportedly
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has been offered as a proposal to think
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about and consider you know resuming
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control of the Rafa Crossing uh without
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having to be inside the Gaza Strip
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physically uh or throughout the gist um
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you know there are some elements that
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work with the PA inside the gist STP but
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those are like weak and there it's
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segmented it's fragmented in certain
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areas and does not really um give any
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indication that the PA will be in a
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position to have Central Authority and
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central control over the entire G trip
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and again as I said I think that would
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require a Moment of Truth kind of
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decision for them to uh to take and uh
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it would require if this would actually
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be um a process that would lead to
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stability it would require a minimum
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level of understanding with all the uh
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you know the factions um and that even
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though I know it sounds odd but that
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would actually include remains of Hamas
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and remains of Islamic Jihad and any
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other faction in Gaza in order to have a
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central control that would be respected
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inclusive and uh um and effective I'm
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not saying that you know there will be a
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scenario for Hamas to actually be part
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of that government I'm just saying that
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there needs to be an understanding uh
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that this government is not hostile to
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all the other factions in in the gas STP
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or the remains of those other factions
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in the gas STP in any post tool scenario
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one last comment that I would have
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actually to mention is the um I think
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one of the biggest problems that are
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facing the PA in the West Bank right now
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is the dire financial crisis and it's no
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longer crying wolf I think that you know
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uh the fact that the Israeli Finance
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Minister has declared publicly that it's
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time to actually topple the PA
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economically has taken an effect uh no
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uh tax revenues at all have been
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transferred to the PA with a prior sort
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of like decision taken by the fin the
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Israeli Finance Minister and the PA has
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been really facing very serious very
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dire economic and financial uh situation
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to the point that not only they're
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unable to pay uh partial salaries but
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they're not able to cover basic expenses
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and this is about the West Bank so uh
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that issue is also you know is an issue
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that needs to be tackled before thinking
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about restoring PA control over Gaza is
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that they're losing the grip of control
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over the the
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West thank you thank you Ibrahim so uh
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basically there is no unified um
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Palestinian position Gaza is still
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struggling uh to fill the governance uh
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and security vacuum while of course
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addressing the humanitarian need and
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while all the eyes on Gaza um West Bank
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and East Jerusalem um are are struggling
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too uh I think this is the right segue
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to move on to um Shira uh and Shir if
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you could please um you know unpack uh
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for us or explain to us how is the uh
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Israeli uh political climate is actually
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influencing um the security policies and
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the humanitarian operation in Gaza and
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if you could predict how this climate
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going to uh impact uh future steps
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especially when it comes to defining a
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strategy for post ceasefire post um war
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and any efforts for stabilization and
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achieving security for Palestinians and
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Israelis alike please
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Shir um thank you far and do you all
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hear me okay yeah okay uh it's good to
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be here with so many friends I I don't
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know if you want me to also address the
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sort of the post SE fire um thinking now
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just because there's so many so many
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issues I I will respond to what uh
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Ibrahim just said now maybe starting
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with that I think on the humanitarian
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front uh sadly uh Israel's policy really
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evolved here and rather than um
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understanding uh upfront right at the
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beginning of the war that it's not just
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uh uh really a moral imperative but it's
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also a strategic choice that Israel has
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to make and to ensure that there's
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sufficient humanitarian relief in Gaza
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this was something that Israel was U
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sort of forced into King and screaming I
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will say though that ironically now
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Israel is trying to um push um the UN
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and other players to bring in more
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humanitarian supplies into Gaza so this
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thinging has changed completely when you
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speak about the politicians and the
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political climate in Israel that's
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everything you have sort of like the
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defense establishment and you have most
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of the country who's busy with other
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things and we can talk about what's
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happening domestically in in Israel but
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it's
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really Israel's at it weakest point you
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know both regionally right and
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security-wise but also domestically in
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terms of people like just unable to
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sustain their livelihoods uh so most
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people don't care but you know you have
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um an extreme a very extreme minority
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that is over represented in the
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government and so you know we hear about
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those um um I think they should be
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called by what they are you know there
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vandalist they're trying to like burn uh
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uh uh at TRS and trying to climb fences
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and resettle in Gaza and obviously
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they're representing the government by
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the extreme right but this is a minority
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and for for overall I think there's an
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understanding in Israel the humanitarian
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situation Gaza needs to improve however
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there's also a realization that you know
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this idea of lawlessness in in Gaza this
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this concept there's no public security
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because right we're just dismantling
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Hamas Hamas is not entirely gone but it
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keeps you know sort of siphoning off Aid
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taxing Aid um and at the same time
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you're creating these vacuums and of
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course we see black market and all these
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other phenomenons and also eight month
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into this I mean we can't keep counting
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how many how much flour there is for
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Peter breads right like people have to
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start getting more diverse uh Foods the
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the health care supply it's it's people
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are on displaced constantly um there are
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some families that have been displaced
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for six time so it's very difficult to
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supply eight so I think we're all like
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counting trucks and there's discrepancy
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between the UN and Israel and we don't
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have time to this we I can explain all
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the discrepancy and I actually think
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probably in terms of the numbers of
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trucks that might be in the on the
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border probably Israel has the more
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accurate count but at the end of the day
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it doesn't really matter if it doesn't
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get to the people and and there's a real
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issue and there's no question the
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humanitarian situation continues to to
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deteriorate and also the needs change in
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terms of the current fighting um as
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probably people here have follow there
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was a big thing about whether Israel is
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going to go to Rafa or not going to go
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to Rafa and Biden posted sort of there
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was the withholding of weapons uh and
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then not withholding um and the idea is
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at the moment uh the IDF is um operating
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in the in Rafa it's mostly and I'm sure
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kareim will get to this occupation of
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the Philadelphia Corridor sort of the
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strip that you know was on the border
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between Gaza and and Egypt looking at uh
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trying to stop uh smuggling tunnels um
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and and and um and militants that are
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there um there are reports that us
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pressure here has indeed contained the
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operation so it's still in the outskirts
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of the city of Rafa but not inside the
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city so you know it's not like a US veto
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on the operation itself but but it it is
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more contained than it was of course it
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can it can grow um at the same time
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there's still idea of fighting in other
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parts U mostly in in jabal in the
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Northern areas that at least to us
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Israelis we've heard that you know have
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occupied them from Hamas long time ago
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and we have them clear so going in the
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third uh time and often last week there
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was more intense fighting in the north
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than in the South
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um the hostages obviously there's uh
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there's still the Israeli hostages
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there's a constant sort of debate you
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know when we talk about the politics
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there's there's a netan who's saying it
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less he started saying it more in the
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last few days but there's very extreme
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right that keeps talking about a total
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Victory um I don't know what they are
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drinking smoking no total Victory uh in
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sight most people uh understand um that
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but it you know there there were two war
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war aims right there's one dismantle of
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M the dismantlement of Hamas as a
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governing uh body that can threaten
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Israeli militarily uh Israel militarily
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and bringing back the hostages so far
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hostages mostly are coming back uh dead
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um
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we uh five more were found dead or were
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dis discovered that according to
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intelligence U that they died four died
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in captivity another one died um uh died
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uh apparently was not a hostage uh but
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those four hostages that died in
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captivity uh the IDF sort of admitted it
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without admitting it because there's an
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investigation now into it but basically
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IDF probably killed them by mistake
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obviously but that's what happens when
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you fight in those areas and this was
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happened in hunis so we're in this
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predicament<00:23:53.320> now<00:23:53.640> where<00:23:53.919> where<00:23:54.200> there's
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predicament now where where there's
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there is a hostage deal ceasefire
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whatever whatever you call it it um on
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the table Biden spoke about it on Friday
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he introduced it said it was an Israeli
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position um it is an Israeli position
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with
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minor with minor modifications it's very
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difficult to know uh what's going to
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happen at the moment um everything
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depends on the Prime Minister you have a
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majority in the government that would
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vote for um for a deal at least the
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first stage of the deal and you can talk
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about what a deal means but the first
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stages you know we're talk about um 42
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days six six weeks in which you know
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women and and the wedad would would be
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returned um and then later on other
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other hostages it's a very difficult uh
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deal to accept for Israel because
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essentially<00:24:44.840> Hamas<00:24:45.159> is<00:24:45.279> getting<00:24:45.679> everything
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essentially Hamas is getting everything
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they wanted um which is comes to
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question why didn't we go for this deal
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earlier when there were more people uh
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to save but we don't know because
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there's a majority in the government for
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this deal but on the other hand uh uh
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the def the Finance Minister who is also
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a minister in the defense Ministry
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Ibrahim mentioned him Bal smotrich and a
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minister of Homeland Security benv
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itamar Ben they're both true ideologues
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and they said that if this deal is
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accepted they're gonna withdraw from the
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Coalition which means that they will
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break the government and the assessment
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has been so far that Nano places the the
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the unity of his government basically
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this the stability of his government
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government ahead of the country's
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interest on the other hand what can
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change is that um there's a fear that
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those lawsuits against is is Israel in
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the ha right there's ICC and icj the
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international court of justice and the
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criminal court uh could turn into a
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binding un security uh Council
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resolutions and there's a real fear
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around that sort there very different
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considerations we hear from Nan on the
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one hand that he accepts parts of the
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deal on the other hand he keeps
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reminding everyone that he's not going
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to agree to a permanent ceasefire and
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Israel will have the reserve the right
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to continue fighting which is basically
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begging Hamas to say hey hey no no our
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precondition is no is this is a
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permanent ceasefire so in a sense it's
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really mixed messages and we don't know
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I will just say that what we are in the
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last couple of days speaking about more
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in Israel and it's more than I know it's
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not the topic but we can talk about Gaza
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in
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Silo the north of G of isra is on fire
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literally um there's an escalation
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that's becoming more and more dangerous
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there are um I guess Hezbollah found the
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sort of drone UAV weapons which is very
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effective there are 10 wounded now in
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the north I think civilians you know the
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the idea there was there was a very
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clear Like rules of the game how do we
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operate right we only heard mil milit
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military Targets on both side and within
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a perimeter both sides keep push pushing
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and pushing and pushing we're on this
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escalatory<00:27:01.840> path<00:27:02.279> and<00:27:02.480> on<00:27:02.640> the<00:27:02.799> one<00:27:03.120> hand<00:27:04.080> um<00:27:04.279> a
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escalatory path and on the one hand um a
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seiz<00:27:04.880> fire<00:27:05.080> in<00:27:05.320> Gaza<00:27:06.279> is<00:27:06.440> supposed<00:27:06.799> to<00:27:07.200> calm
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seiz fire in Gaza is supposed to calm
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everything down in the region right
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Hassan asala sort of binded his uh
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fighting in the north with the situation
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in Gaza so in a sense this will uh calm
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everything down on the other hand we are
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hearing I'm hearing folks in the defense
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uh establishment Israel saying oh if we
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end in Gaza that would give us uh we
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will be in a better position to attack
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in the north because you know we need we
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need um ammunitions we need we need the
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soldiers uh we need we need we need
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folks to fight H but then Israel would
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lose legitimacy for a
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preemptive war in Lebanon if everything
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calms down uh so we have we have a real
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H predicament there and the final thing
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that I will say about the West Bank
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stability and it does go into um you
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know PA no PA if there's any other
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alternative and I I don't know the there
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is um there is an understanding in the
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defense establishment that the PA is
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really titering on the brink the fiscal
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situation of the PA for a variety of
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reasons uh stretch to the to the Bone uh
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but also the economic situation in the
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West Bank at large there's there are
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objective reasons just you know slowdown
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of economic activity there's the war
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there's trade no laborers coming to work
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in Israel what have you uh but of course
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also the policy of of the the Finance
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Minister who who was withholding um uh
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Revenue taxes is withholding part of it
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now is withholding more a part of the
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withholding is due to other countries
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recognizing the state of Palestine so
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he's he's punishing
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Palestine um now smotrich knows what he
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wants and he you know he's pretty good
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strategist right he says what he wants
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and he's operating to get it but you
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know there is a prime minister and there
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is a cabinet and they are supposed to
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know better and I think the question the
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International Community should ask
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Israel is you know this cabinet indeed
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before October 7 but this cabinet in the
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summer of 2023 decided proactively said
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we have a government resolution to
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ensure that the PA survives meaning to
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prevent um uh the collapse of the PA and
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there were steps taken and I think it's
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time to ask Israel have you changed your
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mind is this the policy of not smich of
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the government of Israel because if it
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is we're moving into a very very
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different trajectory right it means what
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is the future of not just Gaza and the
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day after it's the day after the day
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after this month and there is
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legislation that is coming to effect
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this month and there are ties between
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Israeli Banks and Palestinian banks that
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are going to be severed at the end of
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the month um and this this is really the
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money time for these questions um so
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maybe I'll end with
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this uh thank you thank you Shir this is
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uh very heavy to digest but I think it's
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a necessary sober take if you really
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want to sketch what uh post um ceasefire
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scenarios are we really need to
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understand what is taking place at this
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uh moment and maybe a theme that uh you
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know came from your presentation and
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rahim's<00:30:15.919> that<00:30:16.399> that<00:30:16.559> we<00:30:16.679> cannot<00:30:17.159> deal<00:30:17.559> with<00:30:18.159> uh
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rahim's that that we cannot deal with uh
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Gaza in isolation from its surrounding
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and that actually will be the right time
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to bring uh Karim um to the discussion
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um and and kareim there is a stressing a
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question about uh the um Egyptian
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Israeli uh bilateral relations and I was
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wondering if you could explain to us how
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the uh Israeli operations in in in Rafa
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are actually stressing the capacities of
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Egypt around um you know Gaza in terms
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of border security humanitarian access
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and even the the sense of cooperation on
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so many files and next step in the
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future
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and if you could tell us about what are
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Egypt's needs and priorities at this
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moment and maybe constraints also please
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Karim<00:31:09.320> thank<00:31:09.480> you<00:31:09.720> Farah<00:31:10.200> and<00:31:10.799> thank<00:31:10.960> you
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Karim thank you Farah and thank you
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Steve for the introduction and the
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opportunity<00:31:14.200> to<00:31:14.720> participate<00:31:15.720> uh<00:31:15.840> in<00:31:16.039> this
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opportunity to participate uh in this
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panel uh so Farah to your question
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before we talk about Rafa I think we
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have<00:31:22.480> to<00:31:23.000> underscore<00:31:24.000> that<00:31:24.600> uh<00:31:24.720> for<00:31:25.159> Egypt<00:31:25.559> and
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have to underscore that uh for Egypt and
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Gaza<00:31:26.760> we<00:31:26.919> are<00:31:27.159> looking<00:31:27.639> at<00:31:28.279> a<00:31:28.679> very<00:31:29.039> broad<00:31:29.600> set
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Gaza we are looking at a very broad set
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of
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circumstances<00:31:32.000> uh<00:31:32.159> beyond<00:31:32.600> the<00:31:32.760> Rafa<00:31:33.240> issue
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circumstances uh beyond the Rafa issue
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which<00:31:33.760> I<00:31:33.840> will<00:31:34.080> get<00:31:34.320> to<00:31:35.320> uh<00:31:35.559> that<00:31:35.760> have<00:31:36.039> real
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which I will get to uh that have real
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implications<00:31:37.200> for<00:31:37.720> Egypt<00:31:38.320> and<00:31:39.000> uh<00:31:39.279> by<00:31:39.639> by
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implications for Egypt and uh by by
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extension<00:31:41.000> the<00:31:41.360> Egyptian<00:31:42.000> Israeli
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extension the Egyptian Israeli
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relationship<00:31:44.039> so<00:31:44.600> from<00:31:44.880> the<00:31:45.080> beginning<00:31:45.760> I
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relationship so from the beginning I
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think<00:31:46.279> the<00:31:46.600> the<00:31:47.039> uppermost<00:31:47.919> issue<00:31:48.279> of<00:31:48.559> concern
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think the the uppermost issue of concern
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for<00:31:49.639> Egypt<00:31:50.320> was<00:31:51.000> uh<00:31:51.120> the<00:31:51.360> prospect<00:31:52.159> of<00:31:53.039> uh
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for Egypt was uh the prospect of uh
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Israel<00:31:54.120> triggering<00:31:55.120> uh<00:31:55.399> the<00:31:55.840> mass<00:31:56.440> Force
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Israel triggering uh the mass Force
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displacement<00:31:57.960> of<00:31:58.480> Palestinians<00:31:59.480> uh<00:31:59.679> from
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displacement of Palestinians uh from
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Gaza<00:32:00.919> into<00:32:01.480> Egypt<00:32:02.480> this<00:32:02.760> was<00:32:03.279> a<00:32:03.639> signal<00:32:04.559> uh
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Gaza into Egypt this was a signal uh
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that<00:32:05.039> emerged<00:32:06.039> uh<00:32:06.200> that<00:32:06.679> Egypt<00:32:07.039> picked<00:32:07.320> up
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that emerged uh that Egypt picked up
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from<00:32:08.240> uh<00:32:08.360> Israeli<00:32:08.919> statements<00:32:09.840> during<00:32:10.600> the
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from uh Israeli statements during the
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first<00:32:11.279> week<00:32:11.519> of<00:32:11.720> the<00:32:11.880> war<00:32:12.240> as<00:32:12.399> early<00:32:12.799> as<00:32:12.960> the
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first week of the war as early as the
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first<00:32:13.480> week<00:32:13.679> of<00:32:13.880> the<00:32:14.039> war<00:32:14.799> repeated
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first week of the war repeated
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statements<00:32:16.039> that<00:32:16.279> this<00:32:16.480> was<00:32:16.919> a<00:32:17.200> deliberate
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statements that this was a deliberate
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Israeli<00:32:18.760> military<00:32:19.440> objective<00:32:20.000> to<00:32:20.279> force<00:32:21.159> the
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Israeli military objective to force the
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mass<00:32:21.639> displacement<00:32:22.600> of<00:32:22.880> Palestinians<00:32:23.880> uh
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mass displacement of Palestinians uh
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into<00:32:24.679> Egypt<00:32:25.679> uh<00:32:25.880> Egypt<00:32:26.519> responded<00:32:27.519> uh<00:32:27.639> by
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into Egypt uh Egypt responded uh by
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framing<00:32:28.639> this<00:32:28.880> issue<00:32:29.440> as<00:32:29.679> really<00:32:30.000> a<00:32:30.279> red<00:32:30.639> line
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framing this issue as really a red line
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for<00:32:31.919> Egyptian<00:32:32.760> security<00:32:33.760> warning<00:32:34.360> that<00:32:34.559> it
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for Egyptian security warning that it
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would<00:32:35.039> have<00:32:35.360> implications<00:32:36.320> not<00:32:36.600> only<00:32:37.039> for
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would have implications not only for
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Egypt's<00:32:38.039> National<00:32:38.480> Security<00:32:39.120> but<00:32:39.360> also<00:32:40.279> the
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Egypt's National Security but also the
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stability<00:32:41.480> of<00:32:41.880> the<00:32:42.120> Egyptian<00:32:42.760> Israeli<00:32:43.720> uh
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stability of the Egyptian Israeli uh
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relationship<00:32:45.600> and<00:32:45.760> then<00:32:46.080> coupled<00:32:46.559> with<00:32:46.760> that
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relationship and then coupled with that
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we<00:32:47.639> had<00:32:48.639> again<00:32:49.039> from<00:32:49.240> the<00:32:49.399> very<00:32:49.679> beginning<00:32:50.159> an
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we had again from the very beginning an
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Israeli<00:32:51.120> deliberate<00:32:51.919> policy<00:32:52.639> of<00:32:53.399> obstruction
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Israeli deliberate policy of obstruction
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of<00:32:54.600> the<00:32:54.760> flow<00:32:55.320> of<00:32:55.600> humanitarian<00:32:56.519> Aid<00:32:56.840> through
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of the flow of humanitarian Aid through
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the<00:32:57.279> RAF<00:32:57.840> border<00:32:58.120> crossing<00:32:58.600> which<00:32:58.720> was<00:32:58.919> the
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the RAF border crossing which was the
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main<00:32:59.360> conduit<00:32:59.960> for<00:33:00.720> humanitarian<00:33:01.519> relief<00:33:02.399> uh
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main conduit for humanitarian relief uh
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going<00:33:03.080> into<00:33:03.600> daza<00:33:04.600> as<00:33:04.760> I<00:33:04.880> think<00:33:05.039> Shir
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going into daza as I think Shir
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mentioned<00:33:06.039> quite<00:33:06.440> correctly<00:33:07.440> that<00:33:07.760> this<00:33:08.399> uh
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mentioned quite correctly that this uh
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gradually<00:33:09.519> emerged<00:33:10.519> as<00:33:10.880> being<00:33:11.480> what<00:33:11.639> was
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gradually emerged as being what was
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perceived<00:33:12.360> to<00:33:12.480> be<00:33:12.679> a<00:33:12.880> very<00:33:13.159> deliberate
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perceived to be a very deliberate
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Israeli<00:33:14.440> policy<00:33:15.159> of<00:33:16.120> exacerbating<00:33:17.039> the
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Israeli policy of exacerbating the
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humanitarian<00:33:18.120> situation<00:33:18.639> in<00:33:19.080> Gaza<00:33:20.080> in<00:33:20.200> a<00:33:20.440> way
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humanitarian situation in Gaza in a way
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that<00:33:21.279> would<00:33:22.279> uh<00:33:22.559> have<00:33:22.799> as<00:33:23.000> one<00:33:23.159> of<00:33:23.320> its<00:33:23.799> effects
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that would uh have as one of its effects
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uh<00:33:25.039> the<00:33:25.799> uh<00:33:26.200> uh<00:33:26.519> forc<00:33:26.960> displacement<00:33:27.600> of<00:33:27.880> of
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uh the uh uh forc displacement of of
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Palestinians<00:33:29.720> from<00:33:30.039> Gaza<00:33:30.799> uh<00:33:30.960> into<00:33:31.320> Egypt<00:33:32.120> so
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Palestinians from Gaza uh into Egypt so
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this<00:33:32.840> posed<00:33:33.480> a<00:33:34.000> tremendous<00:33:35.000> logistical
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this posed a tremendous logistical
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burden<00:33:36.639> uh<00:33:36.880> on<00:33:37.720> the<00:33:38.279> operations<00:33:39.279> uh<00:33:39.960> along<00:33:40.440> the
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burden uh on the operations uh along the
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Rafa<00:33:41.440> border<00:33:41.799> crossing<00:33:42.559> but<00:33:42.679> it<00:33:42.880> also<00:33:43.120> had
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Rafa border crossing but it also had
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strategic<00:33:44.159> implications<00:33:45.159> uh<00:33:45.320> for<00:33:46.200> uh<00:33:46.720> Egypt
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strategic implications uh for uh Egypt
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and the these issues were really seen
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from<00:33:50.799> the<00:33:51.000> perspective<00:33:51.440> of<00:33:51.760> Cairo<00:33:52.399> as<00:33:53.159> falling
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from the perspective of Cairo as falling
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against<00:33:53.960> the<00:33:54.159> backdrop<00:33:54.960> of<00:33:55.159> what<00:33:55.519> was<00:33:55.720> a<00:33:55.960> very
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against the backdrop of what was a very
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longstanding<00:33:57.320> history
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longstanding history
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of<00:33:59.039> Israeli<00:33:59.799> attempts<00:34:00.799> to<00:34:01.519> solve<00:34:02.240> the<00:34:02.559> problem
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of Israeli attempts to solve the problem
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of<00:34:03.960> Gaza<00:34:04.960> in<00:34:05.240> Egypt<00:34:06.120> right<00:34:06.639> whether<00:34:07.000> through
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of Gaza in Egypt right whether through
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uh<00:34:08.200> previous<00:34:08.760> proposals<00:34:09.599> to<00:34:10.359> uh<00:34:10.639> get<00:34:10.919> an
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uh previous proposals to uh get an
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agreement<00:34:11.599> to<00:34:11.879> enlarge<00:34:12.560> the<00:34:12.760> area<00:34:13.119> of<00:34:13.520> Gaza<00:34:14.520> uh
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agreement to enlarge the area of Gaza uh
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into<00:34:15.119> the<00:34:15.359> Sinai<00:34:15.960> through<00:34:16.280> land<00:34:16.639> swaps
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into the Sinai through land swaps
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between<00:34:17.760> Egypt<00:34:18.240> and<00:34:18.480> Israel<00:34:19.320> between<00:34:19.639> the
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between Egypt and Israel between the
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Sinai<00:34:20.720> and<00:34:20.839> the<00:34:20.960> negtive<00:34:21.839> or<00:34:22.079> pressuring
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Sinai and the negtive or pressuring
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Egypt<00:34:23.040> to<00:34:23.359> assume<00:34:24.159> responsibility<00:34:25.159> for
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Egypt to assume responsibility for
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governance<00:34:26.240> and<00:34:26.480> security<00:34:27.280> uh<00:34:27.399> in<00:34:27.839> Gaza<00:34:28.839> or
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governance and security uh in Gaza or
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forcing<00:34:29.839> the<00:34:30.000> mass<00:34:30.359> influx<00:34:30.879> of<00:34:31.359> Palestinians
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forcing the mass influx of Palestinians
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uh<00:34:32.520> into<00:34:33.040> Egypt<00:34:33.839> so<00:34:34.079> from<00:34:34.280> the<00:34:34.520> beginning<00:34:35.520> this
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uh into Egypt so from the beginning this
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war<00:34:36.399> had<00:34:37.159> real<00:34:37.599> serious<00:34:38.320> strategic
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war had real serious strategic
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implications<00:34:39.879> uh<00:34:40.000> for<00:34:40.359> Egypt<00:34:40.800> and<00:34:41.079> tied<00:34:41.760> to
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implications uh for Egypt and tied to
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the<00:34:42.480> overall<00:34:43.440> stability<00:34:44.159> of<00:34:44.320> the
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the overall stability of the
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relationship<00:34:45.200> between<00:34:46.000> uh<00:34:46.200> Egypt<00:34:46.960> uh<00:34:47.119> and
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relationship between uh Egypt uh and
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Israel<00:34:48.960> then<00:34:49.159> we<00:34:49.359> get<00:34:49.560> to<00:34:50.520> uh<00:34:50.639> Israel's<00:34:51.560> latest
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Israel then we get to uh Israel's latest
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uh<00:34:52.919> occupation<00:34:53.440> of<00:34:53.599> the<00:34:53.760> Philadelphia
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uh occupation of the Philadelphia
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Corridor<00:34:55.399> and<00:34:55.599> of<00:34:55.800> course<00:34:56.359> uh<00:34:56.480> the<00:34:56.639> Rafa<00:34:57.200> order
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Corridor and of course uh the Rafa order
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Crossing<00:34:58.680> and<00:34:58.800> there<00:34:58.920> are<00:34:59.200> several<00:34:59.920> very
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Crossing and there are several very
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significant<00:35:00.960> implications<00:35:01.680> here<00:35:02.359> so<00:35:02.599> first
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significant implications here so first
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there<00:35:03.119> there<00:35:03.280> is<00:35:03.400> a<00:35:03.640> very<00:35:04.000> direct<00:35:04.440> implication
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there there is a very direct implication
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linked<00:35:05.599> to<00:35:06.119> the<00:35:06.400> Egyptian<00:35:06.920> Israeli<00:35:07.359> peace
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linked to the Egyptian Israeli peace
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treaty<00:35:08.480> so<00:35:08.680> the<00:35:08.839> Philadelphia<00:35:09.560> Corridor
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treaty so the Philadelphia Corridor
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which<00:35:10.320> runs<00:35:10.920> along<00:35:11.400> the<00:35:11.560> entire<00:35:12.119> length<00:35:12.760> of
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which runs along the entire length of
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the Egypt Gaza border is part of area D
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and area D is meant to be a
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demilitarized<00:35:20.400> zone<00:35:21.400> uh<00:35:21.560> on<00:35:22.040> the<00:35:22.280> Israeli
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demilitarized zone uh on the Israeli
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side<00:35:23.760> uh<00:35:23.880> of<00:35:24.040> the<00:35:24.200> border<00:35:25.079> the<00:35:25.280> fact<00:35:25.480> that<00:35:25.680> we
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side uh of the border the fact that we
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now<00:35:26.200> have<00:35:26.560> Israeli<00:35:27.079> forces<00:35:27.800> with<00:35:27.960> the<00:35:28.119> IDF
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now have Israeli forces with the IDF
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deployed<00:35:29.920> in<00:35:30.079> the<00:35:30.240> Philadelphia<00:35:30.920> Corridor
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deployed in the Philadelphia Corridor
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constitutes<00:35:32.359> a<00:35:32.560> violation<00:35:33.520> of<00:35:33.920> the<00:35:34.200> security
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constitutes a violation of the security
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adets<00:35:35.320> of<00:35:35.520> the<00:35:35.720> Egyptian<00:35:36.160> Israeli<00:35:36.880> uh<00:35:37.000> peace
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adets of the Egyptian Israeli uh peace
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treaty<00:35:38.640> we<00:35:38.880> also<00:35:39.240> have<00:35:39.400> a<00:35:39.640> situation<00:35:40.320> in<00:35:40.520> which
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treaty we also have a situation in which
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Egyptian<00:35:42.040> and<00:35:42.280> Israeli<00:35:42.880> forces<00:35:43.440> are<00:35:43.760> now
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Egyptian and Israeli forces are now
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deployed<00:35:45.160> in<00:35:45.440> very<00:35:45.680> close<00:35:46.119> proximity<00:35:46.960> across
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deployed in very close proximity across
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each other uh facing each other uh along
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the<00:35:50.839> Philadelphia<00:35:51.440> Corridor<00:35:52.160> and<00:35:52.599> facing
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the Philadelphia Corridor and facing
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each<00:35:53.160> other<00:35:54.000> across<00:35:54.839> the<00:35:55.040> Rafa<00:35:55.480> border
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each other across the Rafa border
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crossing<00:35:57.040> and<00:35:57.240> that<00:35:57.440> has<00:35:57.640> has<00:35:57.800> the<00:35:58.000> potential
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crossing and that has has the potential
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very<00:35:58.920> serious<00:35:59.359> potential<00:35:59.800> of<00:35:59.920> leading<00:36:00.359> to
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very serious potential of leading to
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frost<00:36:01.720> B<00:36:02.079> fire<00:36:02.560> incidents<00:36:03.319> as<00:36:03.680> exactly<00:36:04.200> what
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frost B fire incidents as exactly what
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happened<00:36:05.240> uh<00:36:05.400> last<00:36:05.760> week<00:36:06.079> with<00:36:06.240> the<00:36:06.400> exchange
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happened uh last week with the exchange
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of<00:36:06.960> fire<00:36:07.400> between<00:36:08.319> Egyptian<00:36:09.200> and<00:36:09.359> Israeli
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of fire between Egyptian and Israeli
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forces<00:36:10.920> uh<00:36:11.040> leading<00:36:11.520> to<00:36:12.079> a<00:36:12.280> number<00:36:12.760> of
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forces uh leading to a number of
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casualties<00:36:13.880> on<00:36:14.440> uh<00:36:14.560> the<00:36:14.720> Egyptian<00:36:15.319> side<00:36:16.040> so<00:36:16.400> so
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casualties on uh the Egyptian side so so
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we<00:36:16.839> have<00:36:17.040> the<00:36:17.319> prospect<00:36:18.160> of<00:36:18.640> a<00:36:18.880> repeat<00:36:19.880> uh<00:36:20.079> of
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we have the prospect of a repeat uh of
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these<00:36:20.680> types<00:36:21.359> uh<00:36:21.520> of
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these types uh of
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incidents<00:36:23.440> and<00:36:23.640> then<00:36:23.800> of<00:36:24.000> course<00:36:24.400> it<00:36:24.640> it
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incidents and then of course it it
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presents<00:36:26.000> Egypt<00:36:26.599> with<00:36:26.760> a<00:36:27.079> very
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presents Egypt with a very
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serious<00:36:28.640> dilemma<00:36:29.640> of<00:36:29.960> how<00:36:30.200> to<00:36:30.599> operate<00:36:31.319> the
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serious dilemma of how to operate the
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border<00:36:32.040> crossing<00:36:33.040> with<00:36:33.680> Israel<00:36:34.560> effectively
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border crossing with Israel effectively
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a<00:36:36.000> reoccupying<00:36:37.000> Palestinian<00:36:37.720> territory<00:36:38.440> with
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a reoccupying Palestinian territory with
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its<00:36:39.280> control<00:36:39.920> of<00:36:40.280> Philadelphia<00:36:41.040> and<00:36:41.160> the<00:36:41.319> Rafa
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its control of Philadelphia and the Rafa
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border<00:36:42.240> crossing<00:36:43.240> so<00:36:43.720> from<00:36:43.920> the<00:36:44.119> beginning
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border crossing so from the beginning
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Egypt's<00:36:45.359> interest<00:36:45.880> was<00:36:46.160> to<00:36:46.599> maximize<00:36:47.400> the
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Egypt's interest was to maximize the
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flow<00:36:48.240> of<00:36:48.599> humanitarian<00:36:49.480> assistance<00:36:50.480> going
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flow of humanitarian assistance going
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into<00:36:51.319> Gaza<00:36:52.319> principally<00:36:52.880> through<00:36:53.119> the<00:36:53.280> Rapa
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into Gaza principally through the Rapa
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border<00:36:54.079> crossing<00:36:54.880> but<00:36:55.880> in<00:36:56.119> any<00:36:56.440> way<00:36:56.760> that<00:36:56.960> we
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border crossing but in any way that we
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can<00:36:57.319> get
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can get
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humanitarian<00:36:58.960> assistance<00:36:59.960> uh<00:37:00.119> into<00:37:00.800> the<00:37:01.000> Gaza
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humanitarian assistance uh into the Gaza
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Strip<00:37:02.240> whether<00:37:02.520> through<00:37:02.880> the<00:37:03.240> the<00:37:03.480> various
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Strip whether through the the various
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crossings<00:37:04.640> that<00:37:04.880> Israel<00:37:05.359> controls
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crossings that Israel controls
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between<00:37:07.680> Israeli<00:37:08.200> territory<00:37:08.720> and<00:37:08.960> Gaza
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between Israeli territory and Gaza
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whether<00:37:10.160> through<00:37:10.520> air<00:37:10.839> drops<00:37:11.240> so<00:37:11.680> e<00:37:11.880> Egypt
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whether through air drops so e Egypt
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actually<00:37:12.800> participated<00:37:13.680> actively<00:37:14.560> with
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actually participated actively with
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dozens<00:37:15.480> of<00:37:15.800> airdrops<00:37:16.599> of<00:37:16.839> humanitarian
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dozens of airdrops of humanitarian
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supplies<00:37:18.079> into<00:37:18.720> Gaza<00:37:19.720> but<00:37:19.960> now<00:37:20.359> with<00:37:20.720> Israel
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supplies into Gaza but now with Israel
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effectively<00:37:22.040> occupying<00:37:22.599> the<00:37:22.720> Rafa<00:37:23.200> border
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effectively occupying the Rafa border
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crossing<00:37:24.640> this<00:37:24.880> presents<00:37:25.480> a<00:37:25.720> dilemma<00:37:26.400> between
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crossing this presents a dilemma between
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Egypt's<00:37:27.680> desire<00:37:28.359> to<00:37:28.920> maximize<00:37:29.520> the<00:37:29.680> flow<00:37:30.240> of
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Egypt's desire to maximize the flow of
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humanitarian<00:37:31.680> Assistance<00:37:32.680> or<00:37:33.200> basically<00:37:33.800> to
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humanitarian Assistance or basically to
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Aces<00:37:35.760> to<00:37:36.760> Israel's<00:37:37.520> occupation<00:37:38.200> or
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Aces to Israel's occupation or
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reoccupation<00:37:39.240> of<00:37:39.440> Palestinian<00:37:40.280> territory<00:37:41.280> so
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reoccupation of Palestinian territory so
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this<00:37:41.599> is<00:37:41.720> a<00:37:41.920> very<00:37:42.240> serious<00:37:43.240> uh<00:37:43.400> issue<00:37:43.920> for
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this is a very serious uh issue for
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Egypt<00:37:45.520> and<00:37:45.800> this<00:37:46.000> has<00:37:46.280> prompted<00:37:46.960> a<00:37:47.240> very<00:37:47.599> firm
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Egypt and this has prompted a very firm
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Egyptian<00:37:48.880> position<00:37:49.640> that<00:37:49.960> insists<00:37:50.760> on<00:37:51.280> Israel
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Egyptian position that insists on Israel
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relinquishing<00:37:53.000> control<00:37:54.000> of<00:37:54.240> the<00:37:54.400> Rafa<00:37:54.839> border
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relinquishing control of the Rafa border
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crossing<00:37:56.000> in<00:37:56.200> order<00:37:56.520> to<00:37:56.839> allow<00:37:57.599> for<00:37:58.359> the
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crossing in order to allow for the
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efficient<00:37:59.319> and<00:37:59.520> full<00:37:59.920> resumption<00:38:00.839> of
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efficient and full resumption of
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operations<00:38:02.280> uh<00:38:02.480> humanitarian<00:38:03.440> operations<00:38:04.440> uh
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operations uh humanitarian operations uh
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Rafa<00:38:06.640> and<00:38:06.880> finally<00:38:07.480> I<00:38:07.560> think<00:38:07.880> that<00:38:08.079> there's<00:38:08.280> a
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Rafa and finally I think that there's a
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there's<00:38:08.839> a<00:38:09.160> very<00:38:09.839> uh
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there's a very uh
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important<00:38:11.680> implication<00:38:12.560> of<00:38:12.800> the<00:38:13.079> emerging
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important implication of the emerging
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strategic<00:38:15.240> uh<00:38:15.400> situation<00:38:16.040> that<00:38:16.200> we<00:38:16.440> have<00:38:17.079> in
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strategic uh situation that we have in
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Gaza<00:38:17.839> and<00:38:18.000> this<00:38:18.200> gets<00:38:18.440> to<00:38:18.720> a<00:38:18.839> little<00:38:19.040> bit<00:38:19.200> of
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Gaza and this gets to a little bit of
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what<00:38:20.359> ibraim<00:38:21.359> what<00:38:21.640> was<00:38:21.880> describing<00:38:22.400> in<00:38:22.599> his
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what ibraim what was describing in his
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presentation<00:38:24.440> so<00:38:24.760> now<00:38:25.160> what<00:38:25.319> we<00:38:25.520> have<00:38:25.680> in<00:38:25.920> Gaza
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presentation so now what we have in Gaza
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is<00:38:27.200> a<00:38:27.640> reality<00:38:28.480> of<00:38:29.000> a<00:38:29.319> potential<00:38:29.920> vacuum<00:38:30.480> of
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is a reality of a potential vacuum of
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governance<00:38:31.520> uh<00:38:31.640> in<00:38:31.880> Gaza<00:38:32.880> we<00:38:33.079> have<00:38:33.200> a
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governance uh in Gaza we have a
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breakdown<00:38:34.319> of<00:38:35.000> security<00:38:35.760> coupled<00:38:36.280> with<00:38:36.640> a
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breakdown of security coupled with a
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complete<00:38:37.599> humanitarian<00:38:38.480> and<00:38:38.760> social
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complete humanitarian and social
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breakdown<00:38:40.079> of<00:38:40.440> the<00:38:40.720> situation<00:38:41.560> uh<00:38:41.680> in<00:38:42.119> Gaza
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breakdown of the situation uh in Gaza
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and so we may have a situation in which
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we<00:38:46.440> don't<00:38:46.920> actually<00:38:47.400> get<00:38:47.839> to<00:38:48.319> a<00:38:48.599> day<00:38:48.960> after
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we don't actually get to a day after
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scenario<00:38:50.240> in<00:38:50.440> in<00:38:50.640> Gaza<00:38:51.079> meaning<00:38:51.920> a<00:38:52.119> day<00:38:52.440> after
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scenario in in Gaza meaning a day after
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where we can actually begin to talk
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about sustained humanitarian Rel belief
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or<00:38:58.319> we<00:38:58.440> can<00:38:58.720> begin<00:38:59.079> to<00:38:59.359> talk<00:38:59.599> about<00:38:59.920> serious
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or we can begin to talk about serious
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reconstruction<00:39:01.960> we<00:39:02.079> can<00:39:02.359> begin<00:39:02.720> to<00:39:03.000> talk
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reconstruction we can begin to talk
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about<00:39:03.640> a<00:39:03.920> reestablishment<00:39:04.920> of<00:39:05.119> governance<00:39:06.040> uh
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about a reestablishment of governance uh
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in<00:39:06.880> Gaza<00:39:07.880> and<00:39:08.079> that<00:39:08.240> has<00:39:08.480> real<00:39:08.760> serious
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in Gaza and that has real serious
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implications<00:39:10.280> uh<00:39:10.359> for<00:39:10.800> Egypt<00:39:11.800> so<00:39:12.079> we<00:39:12.240> hear<00:39:12.480> a
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implications uh for Egypt so we hear a
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lot<00:39:13.040> about<00:39:13.839> uh<00:39:13.960> this<00:39:14.240> phrase<00:39:14.800> now<00:39:15.160> that's
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lot about uh this phrase now that's
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constantly<00:39:16.160> being<00:39:16.480> referenced<00:39:17.160> with<00:39:17.359> regards
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constantly being referenced with regards
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to<00:39:18.000> Gaza<00:39:18.640> as<00:39:18.960> a<00:39:19.200> Somalia<00:39:20.079> on<00:39:20.760> the
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to Gaza as a Somalia on the
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mediterrania<00:39:22.560> and<00:39:22.760> one<00:39:23.079> very<00:39:23.359> serious
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mediterrania and one very serious
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analyst<00:39:24.760> of<00:39:25.160> conflict<00:39:25.960> uh<00:39:26.079> in<00:39:26.200> the<00:39:26.400> region
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analyst of conflict uh in the region
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told<00:39:27.839> me<00:39:28.160> you<00:39:28.319> know<00:39:28.640> Kim<00:39:29.119> we<00:39:29.240> may<00:39:29.560> actually<00:39:29.880> be
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told me you know Kim we may actually be
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faced with a different scenario of a fua
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on<00:39:34.440> the<00:39:34.920> Mediterranean<00:39:35.920> so<00:39:36.359> a<00:39:36.640> long-term
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on the Mediterranean so a long-term
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decades<00:39:38.359> long
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decades long
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Insurgency<00:39:40.480> uh<00:39:40.640> that<00:39:40.760> will<00:39:41.119> continue<00:39:41.960> between
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Insurgency uh that will continue between
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armed<00:39:43.480> factions<00:39:44.000> including<00:39:44.560> Hamas<00:39:45.119> in<00:39:45.359> Gaza
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armed factions including Hamas in Gaza
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and<00:39:46.880> uh<00:39:47.000> the<00:39:47.200> IDF<00:39:48.000> even<00:39:48.200> if<00:39:48.359> we<00:39:48.520> do<00:39:48.880> get<00:39:49.240> some
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and uh the IDF even if we do get some
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form<00:39:49.920> of<00:39:50.119> tentative<00:39:50.800> ceasefire<00:39:51.800> uh<00:39:52.240> in
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form of tentative ceasefire uh in
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Gaza that situation has real spillover
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effects<00:39:57.000> in<00:39:57.400> to<00:39:57.800> Egypt<00:39:58.720> it<00:39:58.920> has<00:39:59.079> spillover
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effects in to Egypt it has spillover
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effects<00:40:00.160> that<00:40:00.319> could<00:40:00.560> potentially
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effects that could potentially
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destabilize<00:40:02.480> Northern<00:40:03.040> sin<00:40:03.960> so<00:40:04.200> we<00:40:04.359> may<00:40:04.560> have
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destabilize Northern sin so we may have
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a return of terrorism operations in the
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Sinai<00:40:08.680> the<00:40:09.000> return<00:40:09.319> of<00:40:09.640> of<00:40:10.319> extremism
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Sinai the return of of extremism
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trafficking<00:40:12.079> in<00:40:12.480> illicit<00:40:13.000> Goods<00:40:13.880> in<00:40:14.200> weapons
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trafficking in illicit Goods in weapons
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and
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smuggling<00:40:16.599> and<00:40:16.960> that<00:40:17.599> will<00:40:18.000> have<00:40:18.520> real
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smuggling and that will have real
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implications<00:40:19.680> for<00:40:20.000> the<00:40:20.280> stability<00:40:21.160> of<00:40:21.920> the
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implications for the stability of the
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Egyptian<00:40:22.800> Israeli
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Egyptian Israeli
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relationship and it's it's a situation
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that<00:40:26.839> will<00:40:27.040> not<00:40:27.400> only<00:40:27.640> complicate<00:40:28.160> the
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that will not only complicate the
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overall<00:40:29.000> relationship<00:40:29.680> the<00:40:29.880> security
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overall relationship the security
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relationship between both sides but it
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puts<00:40:33.319> a<00:40:33.599> tremendous<00:40:34.359> pressure<00:40:35.240> on<00:40:36.240> uh<00:40:36.440> Egypt
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puts a tremendous pressure on uh Egypt
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and<00:40:37.280> Israel<00:40:37.800> to<00:40:38.000> deal<00:40:38.560> with<00:40:38.880> what<00:40:39.040> will<00:40:39.240> be<00:40:39.440> a
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and Israel to deal with what will be a
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very<00:40:40.160> complex<00:40:40.960> and<00:40:41.240> very<00:40:41.960> highly
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very complex and very highly
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destabilizing<00:40:43.880> situation<00:40:44.880> and<00:40:45.079> it<00:40:45.280> may<00:40:45.599> just
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destabilizing situation and it may just
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present a reality that is beyond the
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ability of both sides to actually manage
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and I think the important point to
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underscore<00:40:55.520> here<00:40:55.920> is<00:40:56.160> the<00:40:56.359> danger<00:40:57.560> that<00:40:57.800> this
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underscore here is the danger that this
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is not or may not be a temporary
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situation<00:41:02.280> this<00:41:02.400> is<00:41:02.680> the<00:41:02.880> situation<00:41:03.480> that<00:41:03.640> we
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situation this is the situation that we
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will have over the long term and unless
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we<00:41:08.200> move<00:41:08.680> very<00:41:09.440> quickly<00:41:10.440> and<00:41:10.680> very<00:41:10.920> seriously
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we move very quickly and very seriously
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to stabilize that emerging reality uh I
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think the the implications for Egypt and
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the Egyptian Israeli relationship uh
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could<00:41:21.400> potentially<00:41:21.920> be<00:41:22.520> quite<00:41:22.839> serious<00:41:23.839> so<00:41:24.119> so
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could potentially be quite serious so so
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so maybe that gets to the second part of
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your question about Egypt's approach as
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to how to address uh this very troubling
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potential reality that we see emerging
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uh before us uh in
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Gaza<00:41:40.119> so<00:41:40.319> I<00:41:40.440> think<00:41:40.680> clearly<00:41:41.480> the<00:41:41.920> we've<00:41:42.160> all
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Gaza so I think clearly the we've all
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followed<00:41:43.560> uh<00:41:43.839> the<00:41:44.560> uh<00:41:44.760> Egypt's<00:41:45.280> tents<00:41:46.160> as<00:41:46.400> part
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followed uh the uh Egypt's tents as part
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of<00:41:46.720> the<00:41:46.839> ceasefire<00:41:47.920> negotiations<00:41:48.920> uh
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of the ceasefire negotiations uh
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underway<00:41:50.240> we<00:41:50.480> need<00:41:51.000> a<00:41:51.280> stable<00:41:51.880> ceasefire<00:41:52.880> uh
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underway we need a stable ceasefire uh
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in Gaza hopefully one that will come
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with guarantees by the parties involved
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the United States Egypt and K hopefully
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one that will be coupled with some form
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of<00:42:05.680> monitoring<00:42:06.359> mechanism<00:42:07.359> uh<00:42:07.480> to<00:42:07.960> actually
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of monitoring mechanism uh to actually
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hold the parties to account as to who uh
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will violate the ceasefire but beyond
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the ceasefire we need to think very
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quickly<00:42:18.280> about<00:42:18.839> how<00:42:19.160> we<00:42:19.440> put<00:42:19.800> Arrangements<00:42:20.520> in
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quickly about how we put Arrangements in
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place that will stabilize Gaza that will
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actually lead to the resettlement of
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internal displaced persons uh in Gaza
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and that will get to a situation of
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sustained<00:42:33.280> humanitarian<00:42:34.079> relief<00:42:34.720> and
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sustained humanitarian relief and
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hopefully<00:42:35.599> reconstruction<00:42:36.599> in<00:42:37.079> Gaza<00:42:38.079> the<00:42:38.319> key
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hopefully reconstruction in Gaza the key
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Point here and this is this is where um
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uh I think I'll make a final observation
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all of this has to be coupled with a
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serious<00:42:50.960> Pathway<00:42:51.960> to<00:42:52.359> a<00:42:52.640> political<00:42:53.319> process
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serious Pathway to a political process
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that<00:42:54.520> gets<00:42:54.800> us<00:42:55.040> to<00:42:55.440> a<00:42:55.599> two-state<00:42:56.200> solution<00:42:57.599> I
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that gets us to a two-state solution I
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think<00:42:57.960> the<00:42:58.160> The<00:42:58.359> Dilemma<00:42:58.880> we<00:42:59.079> all<00:42:59.400> have<00:42:59.680> here
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think the The Dilemma we all have here
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and especially on the Israeli side and
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Shir<00:43:02.440> hinted<00:43:02.839> at<00:43:03.119> this<00:43:04.119> is<00:43:04.359> is<00:43:04.640> that<00:43:05.400> we<00:43:05.559> are
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Shir hinted at this is is that we are
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all looking at a an alternative to
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hamas's<00:43:10.079> rule<00:43:10.480> in<00:43:10.720> Gaza<00:43:11.480> an<00:43:11.680> alternative<00:43:12.440> that
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hamas's rule in Gaza an alternative that
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is legitimate that has a sense of
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political legitimacy that is not a
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problem that lends itself to a military
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solution there can only be a political
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solution to that problem and if we're
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talking<00:43:27.520> about<00:43:28.280> legitimacy<00:43:29.280> that<00:43:29.559> has<00:43:29.760> to<00:43:29.920> be
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talking about legitimacy that has to be
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coupled with a pathway back to a
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political process leading to two states
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in that context all of the arrangements
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that we're talking about with regards to
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reestablishing<00:43:42.680> Palestinian<00:43:43.559> governance<00:43:44.079> in
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reestablishing Palestinian governance in
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Gaza revitalizing or reforming the PA to
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retake<00:43:48.960> control<00:43:49.839> of<00:43:50.160> Gaza<00:43:51.160> putting<00:43:51.440> in<00:43:51.680> place
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retake control of Gaza putting in place
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credible<00:43:53.000> security<00:43:53.599> Arrangements<00:43:54.319> in<00:43:54.599> Gaza
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credible security Arrangements in Gaza
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and even in in the West Bank all of
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these things can actually be
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contemplated<00:43:59.960> they<00:44:00.119> become<00:44:00.880> realistic<00:44:01.880> when
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contemplated they become realistic when
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we do have a serious political process
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that gets us back to two states in the
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absence<00:44:08.680> of<00:44:08.960> that<00:44:09.680> I<00:44:09.800> think<00:44:10.000> all<00:44:10.160> of<00:44:10.319> the
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absence of that I think all of the
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problems<00:44:11.000> that<00:44:11.160> we<00:44:11.280> are<00:44:11.559> now<00:44:12.480> uh<00:44:12.599> seeing
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problems that we are now uh seeing
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emerging<00:44:14.200> uh<00:44:14.319> in<00:44:14.599> Gaza<00:44:15.200> will<00:44:15.440> only<00:44:15.720> be
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emerging uh in Gaza will only be
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exasperated<00:44:17.400> and<00:44:17.559> they<00:44:17.680> will<00:44:17.920> have<00:44:18.119> real
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exasperated and they will have real
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consequences<00:44:19.119> for<00:44:19.440> Egypt<00:44:20.119> uh<00:44:20.280> but<00:44:20.440> also
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consequences for Egypt uh but also
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Israel and the relationship the Egyptian
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Israeli relationship as a um thank you
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uh what I'm hear you saying that Gaza
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definitely has uh the power uh to shape
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the bilateral relations between Egypt
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and uh Israel and it has the ability to
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redefine<00:44:39.680> what<00:44:39.880> the<00:44:40.040> Egyptians<00:44:40.720> national
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redefine what the Egyptians national
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interests<00:44:41.559> are<00:44:41.839> which<00:44:41.960> means<00:44:42.240> that<00:44:42.400> we<00:44:42.520> are
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interests are which means that we are
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entering<00:44:43.440> and<00:44:43.599> charting<00:44:44.040> in<00:44:44.200> new<00:44:44.680> uh
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entering and charting in new uh
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territories<00:44:46.119> uh<00:44:46.280> let<00:44:46.440> me<00:44:46.599> bring<00:44:47.040> Robert<00:44:47.480> to
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territories uh let me bring Robert to
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the conversation right now um Robert you
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have the very easy task of explaining to
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us uh how is the rising tensions between
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um Israel and the United States is
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impacting<00:45:00.720> uh<00:45:00.880> the<00:45:01.040> American<00:45:01.559> approach
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impacting uh the American approach
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towards<00:45:02.400> Gaza<00:45:03.240> please<00:45:04.240> thank<00:45:04.359> you<00:45:04.480> Farah<00:45:04.839> and
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towards Gaza please thank you Farah and
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uh thank you to CED and and all my
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colleagues here um I'll do my best to be
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quick so that we can get to both
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audience questions and questions to dive
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deeper on the sort of recovery and
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renewal uh pieces of this and to speak
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to your question F about where we are
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today uh in the bilateral relationship
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in the Biden administration's approach
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to Gaza um I think it's pretty clear
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that the Biden Administration is eager
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move on from uh from where we are today
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into the next phase if if that's
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possible uh not for a lack of support
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for for Israel's right of self-defense
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as they keep saying but uh as they would
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frame it a way to avoid uh further uh
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disaster potential Quagmire a potential
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escalation<00:45:44.599> of<00:45:44.800> of<00:45:44.960> other<00:45:45.520> threats<00:45:46.520> um<00:45:47.000> I
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escalation of of other threats um I
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think as I would agree with Kareem
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completely something that's talked about
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around Washington uh a lot right now is
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that there may not be a um a day after
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or this could be the day after that
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there's<00:45:57.800> not<00:45:57.960> a<00:45:58.160> light<00:45:58.400> switch<00:45:58.920> on<00:45:59.079> and<00:45:59.359> off
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there's not a light switch on and off
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from uh War to post-war uh that this
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will be a a process but the bid
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Administration is very eager to move
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from uh where we are today into into a
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future phase that offers some potential
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for different momentum um towards
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something that's better than where we
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are today so there's been of course uh
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humanitarian<00:46:18.079> disaster<00:46:18.800> hostages<00:46:19.280> for<00:46:19.559> held
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humanitarian disaster hostages for held
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for nine months uh but Hamas is
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seriously degraded is the is the sense
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uh the bid Administration has that there
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is not a chance that Hamas can can
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commit another October 7th uh and that
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now is the time to uh look towards a new
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phase uh and then it it goes without
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saying<00:46:37.800> that<00:46:38.040> this<00:46:38.160> is<00:46:38.319> a<00:46:38.599> complex<00:46:39.200> and<00:46:39.280> mostly
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saying that this is a complex and mostly
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negative issue um in us uh domestic
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politics and foreign policy um so the
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Biden<00:46:47.119> Administration<00:46:47.599> is<00:46:47.760> committed<00:46:48.119> to<00:46:48.599> uh
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Biden Administration is committed to uh
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through the current negotiations trying
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to move toward uh avoiding uh into a new
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phase which avoids or tries to head off
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the kind of nightmare scenario that
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kareim<00:46:59.960> just<00:47:00.359> mentioned<00:47:01.359> um<00:47:01.960> so<00:47:02.119> they're
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kareim just mentioned um so they're
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heavily<00:47:02.559> invested<00:47:02.880> in<00:47:03.000> these<00:47:03.160> current<00:47:03.520> talks
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heavily invested in these current talks
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uh there's that means a a pause in
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fighting some kind of Hostage exchange a
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humanitarian relief um and as Ibrahim as
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well mentioned they feel that a
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ceasefire is the step that opens the
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door to all next steps even if it's uh
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you only get phase one of a three-phase
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system they feel that changing the the
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chemistry of the conflict right now uh
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is a good uh in and of itself uh there's
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a need for it and they see real urgency
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in moving to the next phase and creating
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momentum uh and then it adds to a
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broader picture that the bid
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Administration is very committed to um a
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vision for a new Middle East that's
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talked about a lot uh you call it the
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Biden<00:47:45.880> Doctrine<00:47:46.800> however<00:47:47.000> you<00:47:47.280> you<00:47:47.800> phrase<00:47:48.079> it
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Biden Doctrine however you you phrase it
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uh that is Israeli Saudi normalization
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us uh security commitments to Saudi
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Arabia um but that comes with a road map
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or some other term um toward a real uh
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two-state<00:48:03.160> solution<00:48:03.480> towards<00:48:03.720> a<00:48:03.839> Palestinian
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two-state solution towards a Palestinian
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State um and then of course the larger
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security alliances and and architecture
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that go along with that um so the Biden
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Administration is is very much looking
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to move toward uh an ingame which
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advances<00:48:16.960> this<00:48:17.200> sort<00:48:17.440> of<00:48:18.440> um<00:48:19.319> Regional
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advances this sort of um Regional
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security architecture Israeli and
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Regional um uh relations in a different
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place and Palestinian self-determination
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uh but where they're kind of to your
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point uh far in the point of the
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question uh where they're struggling is
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is a sense of strategy a sense of iname
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from the Israeli side from Israeli
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leadership uh what is the what is the
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ultimate<00:48:40.079> set<00:48:40.280> of<00:48:40.440> goals<00:48:41.319> um<00:48:41.520> that<00:48:41.720> that<00:48:41.800> the
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ultimate set of goals um that that the
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Israelis<00:48:42.359> would<00:48:42.559> like<00:48:43.079> to<00:48:44.079> uh<00:48:44.240> take<00:48:44.440> away<00:48:44.680> from
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Israelis would like to uh take away from
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Gaza um uh postwar and what what comes
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next uh is the question that keeps being
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being<00:48:51.760> asked<00:48:52.880> um<00:48:53.880> and<00:48:54.000> the<00:48:54.160> bid
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being asked um and the bid
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Administration has a real um uh
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challenge<00:48:58.000> in<00:48:58.160> terms<00:48:58.480> of<00:48:58.960> uh<00:48:59.200> convincing
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challenge in terms of uh convincing
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Israelis<00:49:00.200> and<00:49:00.720> Palestinians<00:49:01.720> that<00:49:01.839> they<00:49:01.920> have
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Israelis and Palestinians that they have
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a partner in making this the last war
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and moving towards um the sort of
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political<00:49:08.880> uh<00:49:09.319> solution<00:49:09.760> that<00:49:09.880> is<00:49:10.119> necessary
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political uh solution that is necessary
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as I think Kareem mentioned uh we have
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solutions<00:49:14.079> for<00:49:14.799> U<00:49:15.079> rebuilding<00:49:15.680> their
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solutions for U rebuilding their
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Technical Solutions to all these issues
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the issue is politics and the issue is
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uh policy and so uh building that sort
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of trust and Leadership uh is one of the
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main challenges the bid Administration
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is facing
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um and all of those will play into uh
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these next steps around uh recovery
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renewal what is what is gaz's next steps
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orchestrating<00:49:37.040> uh<00:49:37.160> moving<00:49:37.480> into<00:49:37.720> the<00:49:37.920> post<00:49:38.400> a
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orchestrating uh moving into the post a
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post ceasefire world and orchestrating
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who doing what when where why and how uh
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is very much the role um that the Biden
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Administration expects to uh be trying
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to play there's nothing that's going to
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happen<00:49:53.240> without<00:49:53.559> partners<00:49:54.000> and<00:49:54.119> so<00:49:54.319> that's<00:49:55.040> I
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happen without partners and so that's I
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think the the next uh half hour or so uh
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what we'd like to dive into is uh some
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of these questions about the capacities
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of the different actors around uh around
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the the conflict and what's going to be
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necessary by whom so uh with that uh I
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think we had planned uh to to for for
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far to to weigh in um far do you want to
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speak<00:50:18.760> just<00:50:18.880> for<00:50:19.559> maybe<00:50:19.960> a<00:50:20.079> couple<00:50:20.280> of<00:50:20.400> minutes
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speak just for maybe a couple of minutes
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to the uh Jordanian um views and
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priorities around Gaza and how
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uh that plays into this uh well very
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quickly because we W to leave time for
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for the question I um questions um I
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think since October 7th um um Jordan has
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been navigating a very complex and um um
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challenging<00:50:44.119> landscape<00:50:45.119> uh<00:50:45.359> in<00:50:45.599> responding
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challenging landscape uh in responding
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to these challenges Jordan adopted um a
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very assertive diplomatic uh uh approach
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um and and basically during the first
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weeks of the
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um you know the war um the priorities
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were uh that these uh diplomatic efforts
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need to focus on ending the war um um
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calling<00:51:06.680> for<00:51:07.240> um<00:51:07.599> an<00:51:07.760> immediate<00:51:08.200> ceasefire
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calling for um an immediate ceasefire
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and providing uh humanitarian uh relief
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for the Gaza and during the first uh
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weeks you know um the main priority for
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Jordan and this is something kareim
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talked about is to affirm its opposition
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to any uh population transfer uh
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immediately after the outbreak of the
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war King Abdullah stated that any
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Palestinian transfer whether from Gaz to
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Egypt or from the West Bank to Jordan is
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considered a red line uh prime minister
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bisher<00:51:41.760> reiterated<00:51:42.359> this<00:51:42.640> position<00:51:43.160> and<00:51:43.319> said
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bisher reiterated this position and said
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that uh such scenario will be uh the
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equivalent of a de declaration of war uh
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in Jordan on Jordan and um basically
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during these uh weeks uh there has been
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um um a strong collaboration U between
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uh Jordan and Egypt in order to
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coordinate their um you know positions
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and form a United uh front against uh
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this<00:52:08.079> scenario<00:52:08.960> meanwhile<00:52:09.640> uh<00:52:09.760> Jordan<00:52:10.160> played
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this scenario meanwhile uh Jordan played
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a significant role in uh organizing and
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providing<00:52:14.319> humanitarian<00:52:15.040> Aid<00:52:15.480> uh<00:52:15.559> for<00:52:15.760> the
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providing humanitarian Aid uh for the
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Gaza Strip it succeeded in um
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positioning itself as a regional uh
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coordination Hub uh for Aid and we are
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having uh members of the RO royal family
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even contributing to these initiatives
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and that's singling the immediate um and
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the level of commitment uh to that uh
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cause and in continuation for that uh
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Jordan is set to have um emergency
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International Conference uh in the Dead
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Sea on June uh 11th uh this conference
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is organized by Jordan Egypt and uh the
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United Nations and will bring a wide
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variety of actors from the public
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private sector and even the NGO uh world
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world uh with the um I would say the
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purpose to address operational and
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logistical needs and push for a
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collective coordinated response um in
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Gaza uh what the conference will bring
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to the table we're yet to see that uh we
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will yet to see whether uh this
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conference will succeed in uh Bridging
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the gaps in positions that were
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identified in a previous Gatherings
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especially during Manama conference um
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but again it's it's too yet um it's too
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uh soon to um um you know assess the
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success the level of success of this uh
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conference and moving to other
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priorities that Jordan um you know is
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focusing on um beside Gaza um and this
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is something that Rahim you know talked
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about is the situation in the West Bank
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and East Jerusalem and the rising uh
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tension and the settlers attack and the
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provocations
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of and how that adds a yet another layer
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of complexity not only to the Jordanian
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not only to the Palestinian Israeli file
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but also to other Regional files that
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Jordan deals with on the Northern and
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Eastern uh border and high tension um
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there so uh I would say Robert to your
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question the priorities of Jordan since
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the beginning of the war till now uh was
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to ending the war calling for immediate
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ceasefire and of course providing an uh
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emergency uh relief uh for the STP and
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working to stabilizing the West Bank and
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East Jerusalem all doing that as you
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know kareim U you know pointed to within
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uh with the hope that there will be a
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diplomatic process that will include um
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irreversible measures towards uh the
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two-state solution so um I think with
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that uh we are ready to move on to the
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next uh phase of um of our questions
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about the post um um ceasefire scenarios
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and the multiple future for for Gaza
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Roberts<00:54:59.040> thank<00:54:59.200> you<00:54:59.319> far<00:54:59.760> so<00:54:59.920> in<00:55:00.040> the<00:55:00.200> next
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Roberts thank you far so in the next
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phase of this uh this conversation what
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we're going to try to do is weave
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together questions around uh post-war
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Gaza what the process steps actors would
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be uh and weave to weave in um those
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with our with our audience questions
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which of which there are many and I
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apologize<00:55:16.440> if<00:55:16.559> we<00:55:16.680> can't<00:55:16.839> get<00:55:16.920> to<00:55:17.079> all<00:55:17.240> of<00:55:17.359> them
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apologize if we can't get to all of them
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so uh first to Shir um what would you
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speak<00:55:22.599> to<00:55:23.599> where<00:55:24.400> the<00:55:24.520> Israeli<00:55:24.920> government
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speak to where the Israeli government
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and Israeli Society is is around what
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success for Gaza looks like in the next
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1 three five years again it's a huge
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question very difficult but what is the
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ultimate uh sense of goals and endgame
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for Israel what are the Partnerships
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that are necessary for that and to speak
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to a question that came in from the
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audience is uh where would you say uh
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the conversations in Israel are around
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uh the risks that the current trajectory
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has about Israel's International
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relationships it's it's of place in the
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International Community is there a I
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think it goes back and forth sense of uh
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both isolation and or acceptance and
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support from the International Community
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so again that's very those are three
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very long questions uh but as best you
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can can you speak to what does success
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for Gaza look like uh directly and and
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more broadly yeah listen there's the
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over there's the the majority I think
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population um who are mostly consuming
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is Israeli News um and the media here
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enact<00:56:29.599> self-censorship<00:56:30.440> so<00:56:30.960> Israelis<00:56:31.440> don't
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enact self-censorship so Israelis don't
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see what everyone else sees in the world
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not on the damage in Gaza um and not
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other images it's everything through a
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very self-centered lens of what's
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happening to us and something horrible
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happened to us I mean there's no
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question right something horrible that
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appended all of Israelis thinking about
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what be being secure means so but
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without without uh looking at that um I
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think there's there's that and there's
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the more like you know experts what
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experts thing and those are not the same
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things and the expert level
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conversations and and this clear sort of
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uh choice between the current trajectory
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which in my view but not just in my view
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uh could cannot bring us anything
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positive you know in Hebrew it sounds
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better but nothing good is threatening
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us if we continue on the current
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trajectory<00:57:26.559> versus<00:57:26.960> the<00:57:27.079> other<00:57:27.400> option<00:57:27.760> that
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trajectory versus the other option that
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has risks for sure uh but uh but could
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save<00:57:32.599> Israel<00:57:33.079> from<00:57:33.400> the<00:57:33.559> PRI<00:57:34.000> status
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save Israel from the PRI status
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internationally<00:57:35.559> from<00:57:35.880> having<00:57:36.119> to<00:57:36.319> own<00:57:36.640> Gaza
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internationally from having to own Gaza
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from having to uh manage the civilian
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Affairs of of Palestinians right we talk
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about 3 millions in the the West Bank
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and 2.3 million in Gaza I mean there's
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no capacity to do this Regional war and
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and what have you so I I don't think
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this conversation is um is made clear to
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Israelis as others may be outside uh
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think I also think that even a
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conversation that is much more you know
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narrow<00:58:01.319> what<00:58:01.440> would<00:58:01.599> a<00:58:01.760> war<00:58:02.559> with<00:58:02.760> hasbalah
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narrow what would a war with hasbalah
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actually look like you know and and this
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would be terrible the scenar is we have
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our thousands of of casualties in Israel
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and buildings falling and infrastructure
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and taking Israel decades backwards and
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even<00:58:13.839> this<00:58:13.960> is<00:58:14.039> not<00:58:14.200> discussed<00:58:14.559> so<00:58:14.880> what
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even this is not discussed so what
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Israeli you know when we want to talk
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about the public and when we talk about
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decision makers and want to talk about
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the defense establishment and it really
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depends<00:58:21.520> what<00:58:21.640> you<00:58:21.839> ask<00:58:22.119> in<00:58:22.319> different
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depends what you ask in different
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Israelis I think the fact is what a
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success in Gaza looks like no one
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defined it it was sort of like oh we
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want to uh dismantle Hamas whatever that
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means and bring back the hostages
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um the hostages have not returned so so
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it's<00:58:39.839> very<00:58:40.240> difficult<00:58:40.359> you<00:58:40.480> know<00:58:40.599> there's<00:58:40.760> a
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it's very difficult you know there's a
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clear metric here are we returning the
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hostages and if this is success and what
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does this amandement of Hamas um means
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when Michael kopo and myself we wrote a
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sort of like a plan for the day after
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which I I I want to go into too length
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because don't have time but what I think
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is the only path path forward and some
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people do agree with you me but they
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don't<00:59:01.920> say<00:59:02.119> it<00:59:02.280> and<00:59:02.440> I<00:59:02.599> I'll<00:59:02.760> explain<00:59:03.200> why<00:59:03.960> um
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don't say it and I I'll explain why um
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we said that the failure to plan ahead
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will bring Israel to one of two
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scenarios one would be a Hamas
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Resurgence<00:59:11.480> and<00:59:11.640> the<00:59:11.760> other<00:59:12.319> would<00:59:12.520> be
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Resurgence and the other would be
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Israeli occupation I never thought in
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the world you could have both at the
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same time and that's in fact what's
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happening<00:59:18.599> now<00:59:19.160> we<00:59:19.280> have<00:59:19.440> Israeli<00:59:19.880> occupation
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happening now we have Israeli occupation
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in one parts of Gaza and we have Hamas
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Resurgence in another so this we we're
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having<00:59:25.319> sort<00:59:25.480> of<00:59:25.680> a<00:59:25.799> very<00:59:26.319> negative<00:59:26.760> scenario
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having sort of a very negative scenario
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and and I think what we're seeing
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gradually<00:59:30.520> is<00:59:30.680> more<00:59:30.839> and<00:59:31.000> more<00:59:31.599> Israelis
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gradually is more and more Israelis
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saying<00:59:32.960> well<00:59:33.160> we<00:59:33.319> do<00:59:33.559> have<00:59:33.680> to<00:59:33.799> discuss<00:59:34.200> the
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saying well we do have to discuss the
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day after because we're not we're not in
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a good place what they are saying and if
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you've<00:59:39.200> heard<00:59:39.799> Minister<00:59:40.599> Gans<00:59:41.400> who<00:59:41.520> is<00:59:41.720> n's
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you've heard Minister Gans who is n's
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Prime Contender and also defense
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minister<00:59:44.200> galand<00:59:44.680> who<00:59:44.799> is<00:59:44.920> from<00:59:45.079> nal's<00:59:45.640> party
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minister galand who is from nal's party
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both said the same thing they're like oh
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we have to find a day after and they're
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uh<00:59:51.839> what<00:59:52.039> they're<00:59:52.359> calling<00:59:52.799> for<00:59:53.680> is<00:59:54.000> there<00:59:54.559> I
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uh what they're calling for is there I
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want<00:59:54.799> to<00:59:54.960> read<00:59:55.200> this<00:59:55.480> and<00:59:55.640> there's<00:59:55.839> three
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want to read this and there's three
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threats<00:59:56.359> and<00:59:56.520> other<00:59:56.760> things<00:59:57.079> that<00:59:57.680> never<00:59:57.920> mind
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threats and other things that never mind
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w't<00:59:58.559> get<00:59:58.760> into<00:59:59.400> but<00:59:59.520> it's<00:59:59.720> like<00:59:59.920> we<01:00:00.079> have<01:00:00.240> to
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w't get into but it's like we have to
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create a governing body to look at Gaza
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and the US will oversee it um and with
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the Europeans and the Arabs and this
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goes<01:00:09.920> to<01:00:10.119> what<01:00:10.280> Farah<01:00:10.760> spoke<01:00:11.079> about<01:00:11.480> and<01:00:11.640> and
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goes to what Farah spoke about and and
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Karim<01:00:12.400> right<01:00:12.520> the<01:00:12.640> jordanians<01:00:13.160> will<01:00:13.359> come
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Karim right the jordanians will come
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with their troops on the ground and the
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Egyptians<01:00:15.440> everyone<01:00:15.680> will<01:00:15.839> secure<01:00:16.160> it<01:00:16.680> and
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Egyptians everyone will secure it and
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unspecified<01:00:18.319> local
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unspecified local
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Palestinians and this is where I think
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we we we are you know I think the
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Israeli public they they've come to sort
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of see the PA or the PA and Hamas is the
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same Palestinians all are being uh the
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same and it's not just injustice it's
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just also really wrong because they are
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no unspecified Palestinians there are no
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unicorns<01:00:43.079> and<01:00:43.280> gites<01:00:43.880> essentially<01:00:44.200> a
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unicorns and gites essentially a
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two-party<01:00:44.839> system<01:00:45.240> right<01:00:45.400> there's<01:00:45.799> there's
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two-party system right there's there's
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Hamas and there is the the the the the
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fat which dominates the PA they're not
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that really in between so for a good
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reason you can find any so I think when
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when I look at what's a way out of this
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stalemate<01:01:01.000> is<01:01:01.359> yes<01:01:01.720> having<01:01:02.119> a
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stalemate is yes having a
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provisional um Administration in Gaza
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which would be uh you can tell local pal
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but it has to be under the offices of
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the PA no one means that Abu maen who
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can't<01:01:14.200> control<01:01:14.480> Janine<01:01:14.799> and<01:01:14.920> nublas<01:01:15.280> and<01:01:15.359> I'm
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can't control Janine and nublas and I'm
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sure<01:01:15.680> ibraim<01:01:16.200> has<01:01:16.319> a<01:01:16.440> lot<01:01:16.559> of<01:01:16.680> things<01:01:16.839> to<01:01:17.000> say
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sure ibraim has a lot of things to say
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about you know
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the how how the PA is governing and
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their capacity they have no capacity at
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the moment they're not going to roll
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into Gaza and take over but but it has
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to be part of sort of like a PA umbrella
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to get all the benefits of the
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International Community uh the Arab some
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sort of legitimate political pathway
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toward a separation of a state one day
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and then I think maybe there's a chance
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of getting an Arab support and we could
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say what the support looks like um and
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support by the International Community
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for restoring basic Services right some
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sort of public security which will have
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to happen moving from the Urgent
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humanitarian<01:01:56.160> needs<01:01:56.440> to<01:01:56.720> some<01:01:56.960> sort<01:01:57.119> of
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humanitarian needs to some sort of
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recovery<01:01:58.319> I<01:01:58.400> mean<01:01:59.119> kids<01:01:59.359> would<01:01:59.559> have<01:01:59.640> to<01:01:59.760> go<01:01:59.880> to
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recovery I mean kids would have to go to
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school at one point in Gaza so this is
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not just like we're talking about food
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food food there's there's Beyond food
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when you talk about humanitarian but
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essentially recovery and and beginning
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the very long and very very very
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expensive trajectory of of
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reconstruction the World Bank uh
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estimates it could cost $40 billion and
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take many years how do we even start
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about this I just don't see um um any
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any of the any of that could happen
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without recognizing inside Israel that
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um it's not maybe the optimal choice but
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we don't have uh a choice where we are
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you know in the neighborhood in terms of
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the and the PA is in fact or PA and a or
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body is affiliated with the PA our our
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best choice at the moment to to um get
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us out of this plan so I think where
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maybe I I'll sum up with this that I
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think that in Israeli press and Israeli
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politicians are portraying the PA as as
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part of the problem and I think that
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they the framing should change to the PA
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is being part of the solution they need
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to do a lot of work reforms is an
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understatement of what they need to do
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um there's a lot that that's hanging on
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them the International Community has
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leverage the Arabs have leverage but I
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just don't see um us getting out of this
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moror us without without
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it thank you Shar uh so our next uh
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panel is going to be ibraim and Ibrahim
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I want to pick up on the end of shir's
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inject um around particularly the role
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of the PA so so broad picture being what
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are the pillars of uh the future of
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Palestinian the Palestinian national
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project in terms of where Palestinian
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public opinion is um how do you build
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consensus around this Vision there are a
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lot of different ways to look at it and
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then uh finally there is this tension
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between the different models that have
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been been put out there which is uh the
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PA as as an essential actor and the PA
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as un ready not quite ready to um be an
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actor a major actor in uh in Gaza
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particularly with with uh it's unclear
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what hamas's future is so then there's
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the question of uh a temporary Force um
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multinational Force transitional force
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that could be absorbed by the pa uh how
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can you speak to those two big questions
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which is what what are the principles
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the pillars about the future of the
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Palestinian national project and then
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what are the institutions and processes
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for advancing this if this is an
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opportunity um what does that look like
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and again uh very big questions um post
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to you uh to speak very
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quickly uh speaking very quickly I was
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actually warned or asked to slow down so
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I want to be speaking quickly I will try
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to actually slow down so I'm um
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so people uh basically um um fully uh uh
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understand what I say uh first of all I
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think uh to be honest you know that
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these are the in my opinion and I think
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in in general Palestinian public opinion
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the very wrong questions um as it stands
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today uh with a government of ideologues
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in Israel or at least as Shir was
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mentioning<01:05:19.119> U<01:05:19.760> ideologues<01:05:20.160> that<01:05:20.359> are<01:05:20.559> given
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mentioning U ideologues that are given
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power in in determining policies whether
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it's<01:05:24.760> Visa<01:05:25.279> Gaza
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it's Visa Gaza
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or Hamas or you know the Palestinian
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Authority I don't really think that
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there are prospects for the PA to reform
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in fact I would actually Warn and um say
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that if the current situation the
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financial<01:05:38.520> situation<01:05:38.920> of<01:05:39.000> the<01:05:39.119> Palestinian
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financial situation of the Palestinian
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Authority stays like it is and it looks
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like it's going to stay like it is for a
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month or two I think you'll start seeing
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the
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disintegration uh of the PA in the West
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Bank even further disintegration yes you
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know the PA requires and needs lots of
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reps<01:05:56.440> but<01:05:56.559> the<01:05:56.680> external<01:05:57.160> pressure<01:05:57.480> that<01:05:57.599> is
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reps but the external pressure that is
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being applied by the uh Israeli Minister
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of Finance who publicly stated that it's
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time to bring down the PA economically
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is not something that you would actually
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neglect<01:06:09.000> if<01:06:09.079> you<01:06:09.200> were<01:06:09.400> living<01:06:09.720> in<01:06:09.880> the<01:06:10.039> West
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neglect if you were living in the West
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Bank as an average cism because you see
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it you see that 40% by the way of
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Palestinian employees are unable to
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reach their workplaces not only because
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of the internal cles that have been
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applied since October 7 but now actually
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because they have no means and no
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finances and no salaries to actually get
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to their workplaces um you know like p
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security forces are being you know
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cutting down on supplies to them that
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includes food uh so instead of like
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three meals they're actually getting two
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meals uh and you know it's actually you
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know um uh going worse and worse private
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sector you know the currency flow the
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fact that you know like more than
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200,000 workers in Israel are unable to
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reach their workplaces while public
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sector is not being paid and this has
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been going on for for more than eight
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months uh or being paid partially um
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this has created a situation where the
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pa has entered into a state of
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disintegration so thinking about the PA
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role in Gaza while it's unable to
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sustain<01:07:11.200> its<01:07:11.400> control<01:07:11.680> in<01:07:11.799> the<01:07:11.920> West<01:07:12.160> Bank<01:07:12.760> is
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sustain its control in the West Bank is
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really absurd and in so many you know
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different ways and you have an Israeli
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Minister who basically controls policy
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and says that it's time to actually
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bring down the PA so that's not
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conspiracy theory this is basically a
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reality that we're going through and
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we're seeing the end the out um on the
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uh on the other sort of like um part of
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the of the question is that I think
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frankly a corner store of analysis and
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real politic dictates the following if
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the current Israel government stays in
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place I don't really think that there
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are prospects for a day after in Gaza
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and I agree with the you know with the
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scenario that was presented by uh by
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Karim earlier that A Wasteland you know
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call it fuja call it Somalia a wasteland
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sort of like reality in Gaza is the most
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likely for for the coming years with
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dire<01:08:02.319> humanitarian<01:08:03.240> situation<01:08:04.240> lawlessness
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dire humanitarian situation lawlessness
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and you know um any attempt to impose
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any of the I think four scenarios that
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are play out there uh will work will not
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work and it will going and it's going to
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actually be a different uh level of war
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and Insurgency in so many different
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levels and the four scenarios by the way
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that are being talked about
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intellectually<01:08:24.319> at<01:08:24.440> least<01:08:24.679> theoretically
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intellectually at least theoretically
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because in the absence of concrete
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Israeli plan to make it work nothing is
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going to happen that way um one is
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actually that talks about some you know
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like Think Tank centers that talk about
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you know multinational force and a
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commission<01:08:38.120> of<01:08:38.359> politicians<01:08:39.000> coming<01:08:39.239> to<01:08:39.480> Gaza
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commission of politicians coming to Gaza
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which is a mandate a for mandate that
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would be imposed on Gaza and I can
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assure<01:08:45.040> you<01:08:45.279> that<01:08:45.520> this<01:08:45.759> comes<01:08:46.719> uh<01:08:46.880> without
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assure you that this comes uh without
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consent<01:08:47.880> of<01:08:48.480> you<01:08:48.600> know<01:08:48.839> Palestinians<01:08:49.640> whether
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consent of you know Palestinians whether
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it's the PA or Hamas or remains of Hamas
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is going to be resisted and it won't
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work and I'm not sure which countries
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whether Arab or foreign countries would
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want to replace IDF Rule and occupation
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of Gaza uh in order to serve certain
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interests<01:09:03.600> which<01:09:03.719> are<01:09:03.960> not<01:09:04.560> and<01:09:04.759> don't<01:09:05.040> look
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interests which are not and don't look
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like a Palestinian you know short of uh
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political solution that will never
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actually come about in the presence of
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such an Israeli government uh second
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scenario is actually resurrection of PA
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Authority control in Gaza we all know
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and again you know with the Israeli the
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current Israeli policy of basically
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tpping<01:09:24.279> down<01:09:24.480> the<01:09:24.600> PA<01:09:24.920> economy<01:09:25.839> there<01:09:25.920> is<01:09:26.120> no
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tpping down the PA economy there is no
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you know scenario as such that PA would
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be able to go and operate in Gaza third
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scenario that people talk about is the
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full<01:09:33.520> occupation<01:09:34.120> and<01:09:34.319> civil<01:09:34.600> administration
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full occupation and civil administration
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at least some people in Israel are
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talking about uh and those some people
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include ministers by the way uh this is
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like a full occupation of civil
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Administration which takes us back to
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you know the 70s and 80s which is a
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continued uh you know struggle against
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that occupation and a such you know it's
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closer to the westand scenario than
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anything<01:09:55.040> else
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anything else
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um and the fourth scenario uh is um
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where you have uh um you know an
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agreement<01:10:03.719> between<01:10:04.120> factions<01:10:05.040> remains<01:10:05.280> of
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agreement between factions remains of
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factions<01:10:06.159> to<01:10:06.360> bring<01:10:06.640> back<01:10:06.840> a<01:10:07.000> Palestinian
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factions to bring back a Palestinian
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Authority a different form of a
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Palestinian Authority similar to a
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Palestinian Authority Quai Palestinian
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Authority technocratic government that
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requires internal Palestinian
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understanding<01:10:18.360> and<01:10:18.480> it<01:10:18.600> can't<01:10:18.840> be<01:10:19.280> imposed<01:10:20.280> uh
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understanding and it can't be imposed uh
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and so long as there are dictates and
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there are like conditions uh on forming
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that<01:10:25.080> kind<01:10:25.440> of<01:10:25.600> authority<01:10:26.159> including<01:10:26.719> by
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that kind of authority including by
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Israel<01:10:27.679> which<01:10:27.880> Again<01:10:28.239> by<01:10:28.400> the<01:10:28.520> way<01:10:28.880> has
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Israel which Again by the way has
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rejected<01:10:29.600> even<01:10:29.800> the<01:10:30.080> return<01:10:30.280> of<01:10:30.480> PA<01:10:30.880> to<01:10:31.040> the<01:10:31.239> to
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rejected even the return of PA to the to
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the<01:10:31.480> RAF<01:10:31.840> Crossing<01:10:32.679> just<01:10:33.040> recently<01:10:34.040> uh<01:10:34.199> so<01:10:34.520> you
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the RAF Crossing just recently uh so you
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know<01:10:35.040> that<01:10:35.280> that<01:10:35.480> that<01:10:35.640> does<01:10:35.880> not<01:10:36.360> really<01:10:36.920> uh
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know that that that does not really uh
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tell<01:10:37.239> you<01:10:37.480> much<01:10:37.800> about<01:10:38.120> the<01:10:38.280> prospects<01:10:38.719> of<01:10:38.920> any
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tell you much about the prospects of any
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of<01:10:39.360> those<01:10:39.640> Solutions<01:10:40.640> uh<01:10:40.880> becoming
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of those Solutions uh becoming
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actionable<01:10:42.679> um<01:10:43.120> you<01:10:43.239> know<01:10:43.400> in<01:10:43.520> terms<01:10:43.760> of<01:10:43.920> the
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actionable um you know in terms of the
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two<01:10:44.280> State<01:10:44.520> solution<01:10:44.880> that<01:10:45.080> Kim<01:10:45.400> wased<01:10:46.000> to
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two State solution that Kim wased to
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which<01:10:46.320> I<01:10:46.480> agree<01:10:46.760> with<01:10:46.960> fully<01:10:47.880> uh<01:10:48.120> you<01:10:48.199> know<01:10:48.400> I
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which I agree with fully uh you know I
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think<01:10:48.719> that<01:10:48.920> the<01:10:49.080> last<01:10:49.480> thing<01:10:49.880> that<01:10:50.040> is<01:10:50.199> being
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think that the last thing that is being
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debated<01:10:51.360> not<01:10:51.600> secretly<01:10:52.280> but<01:10:52.679> quietly<01:10:53.679> uh<01:10:53.760> on<01:10:53.920> a
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debated not secretly but quietly uh on a
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US<01:10:54.719> paper<01:10:55.040> that<01:10:55.320> has<01:10:55.440> been<01:10:55.640> presented<01:10:56.120> to<01:10:56.280> the
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US paper that has been presented to the
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contact<01:10:57.440> uh<01:10:57.600> group<01:10:58.000> the<01:10:58.199> six<01:10:58.560> Arab<01:10:58.880> group<01:10:59.199> and
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contact uh group the six Arab group and
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has<01:10:59.560> not<01:10:59.840> yet<01:11:00.280> seen<01:11:00.600> light<01:11:00.840> but<01:11:01.000> it<01:11:01.159> will<01:11:01.880> uh
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has not yet seen light but it will uh
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you<01:11:02.360> know<01:11:02.600> maybe<01:11:03.520> uh<01:11:04.000> that<01:11:04.440> you<01:11:04.560> know<01:11:04.719> the<01:11:04.880> US
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you know maybe uh that you know the US
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Administration<01:11:06.080> is<01:11:06.360> committed<01:11:06.800> to<01:11:07.000> resuming
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Administration is committed to resuming
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negotiations<01:11:08.440> on<01:11:08.640> two-state<01:11:09.159> solution<01:11:09.600> and
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negotiations on two-state solution and
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normalization<01:11:10.440> with<01:11:10.600> Saudi<01:11:10.920> Arabia<01:11:11.719> well
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normalization with Saudi Arabia well
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that's<01:11:12.239> great<01:11:13.080> uh<01:11:13.280> but<01:11:13.520> you<01:11:13.640> know<01:11:13.800> with<01:11:13.920> a<01:11:14.239> with
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that's great uh but you know with a with
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the<01:11:14.560> with<01:11:14.719> the<01:11:15.040> again<01:11:15.640> going<01:11:15.880> back<01:11:16.040> to<01:11:16.159> the
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the with the again going back to the
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Corner<01:11:17.040> Stone<01:11:17.560> with<01:11:17.719> the<01:11:17.840> current<01:11:18.120> Israeli
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Corner Stone with the current Israeli
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government<01:11:19.000> in<01:11:19.280> place<01:11:20.000> I<01:11:20.120> I<01:11:20.239> don't<01:11:20.400> really
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government in place I I don't really
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think<01:11:20.920> that<01:11:21.080> there<01:11:21.159> will<01:11:21.360> be<01:11:21.800> final<01:11:22.120> status
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think that there will be final status
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negotiations<01:11:23.440> on<01:11:23.719> Palestinian<01:11:24.280> statehood
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negotiations on Palestinian statehood
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whether<01:11:24.920> it<01:11:25.040> be<01:11:25.360> Gaza<01:11:25.719> or<01:11:25.840> the<01:11:25.960> West<01:11:26.120> Bank<01:11:27.000> and
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whether it be Gaza or the West Bank and
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let's<01:11:27.360> not<01:11:27.560> talk<01:11:27.760> about<01:11:28.040> is<01:11:28.199> Jerusalem<01:11:28.719> so<01:11:29.199> you
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let's not talk about is Jerusalem so you
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know<01:11:29.640> I<01:11:29.760> think<01:11:30.040> that<01:11:30.199> all<01:11:30.440> those<01:11:30.960> scenarios
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know I think that all those scenarios
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that<01:11:31.679> we<01:11:31.880> have<01:11:32.600> uh<01:11:33.000> out<01:11:33.280> there<01:11:33.560> are<01:11:33.760> not<01:11:34.000> yet
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that we have uh out there are not yet
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actionable<01:11:34.719> and<01:11:34.880> the<01:11:35.000> Cornerstone<01:11:35.679> is<01:11:35.920> and
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actionable and the Cornerstone is and
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I'm<01:11:36.159> not<01:11:36.560> you<01:11:36.679> know<01:11:36.880> acquitting<01:11:37.239> the<01:11:37.400> palestin
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I'm not you know acquitting the palestin
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authority<01:11:38.400> of<01:11:38.719> Need<01:11:38.960> for<01:11:39.280> institutional
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authority of Need for institutional
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reform<01:11:40.600> I'm<01:11:40.719> not<01:11:40.920> acquitting<01:11:41.679> Hamas<01:11:42.320> and
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reform I'm not acquitting Hamas and
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blaming<01:11:42.880> it<01:11:43.120> for<01:11:43.600> for<01:11:43.800> the<01:11:43.920> current<01:11:44.239> crisis
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blaming it for for the current crisis
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that<01:11:44.800> we<01:11:44.920> are<01:11:45.080> in<01:11:45.360> but<01:11:45.520> at<01:11:45.639> the<01:11:45.719> end<01:11:45.880> of<01:11:46.000> the<01:11:46.159> day
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that we are in but at the end of the day
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moving<01:11:46.719> forward<01:11:47.440> would<01:11:47.840> require<01:11:48.840> uh
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moving forward would require uh
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different<01:11:49.560> Israeli<01:11:50.040> government<01:11:50.440> in<01:11:50.639> place
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different Israeli government in place
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and<01:11:51.320> then<01:11:51.480> you<01:11:51.600> can<01:11:51.760> talk<01:11:52.000> about<01:11:52.280> prospects<01:11:52.639> of
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and then you can talk about prospects of
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resuming<01:11:53.239> negotiations<01:11:54.080> and<01:11:54.320> you<01:11:54.440> know
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resuming negotiations and you know
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bringing<01:11:54.960> back
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bringing back
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um<01:11:56.280> you<01:11:56.400> know<01:11:56.560> the<01:11:56.639> Palestinian<01:11:57.400> Authority<01:11:58.400> uh
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um you know the Palestinian Authority uh
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to<01:11:59.400> Gaza<01:11:59.800> for<01:12:00.040> that<01:12:00.199> to<01:12:00.400> become<01:12:00.880> an<01:12:01.800> actionable
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to Gaza for that to become an actionable
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uh<01:12:03.120> uh<01:12:03.440> plan<01:12:04.199> uh<01:12:04.320> one<01:12:04.560> last<01:12:04.800> thing<01:12:05.000> that<01:12:05.159> I
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uh uh plan uh one last thing that I
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would<01:12:05.480> actually<01:12:05.760> like<01:12:06.000> to<01:12:06.520> um<01:12:06.960> just<01:12:07.280> highlight
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would actually like to um just highlight
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U you know the the fact that you know
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people<01:12:10.360> talk<01:12:10.639> about<01:12:11.199> whatever<01:12:11.560> it<01:12:11.719> means<01:12:12.120> in
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people talk about whatever it means in
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terms<01:12:12.520> of<01:12:12.719> Hamas<01:12:13.320> and<01:12:13.600> and<01:12:13.920> and<01:12:14.440> how<01:12:14.560> do<01:12:14.719> you
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terms of Hamas and and and how do you
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actually<01:12:15.280> get<01:12:15.480> the<01:12:15.639> Israeli<01:12:16.639> um<01:12:17.239> War<01:12:17.800> goals
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actually get the Israeli um War goals
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implemented<01:12:19.560> or<01:12:19.880> or<01:12:20.679> materialized<01:12:21.600> you<01:12:21.719> know
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implemented or or materialized you know
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H<01:12:22.239> the<01:12:22.320> truth<01:12:22.639> I<01:12:22.760> think<01:12:23.040> is<01:12:23.199> that<01:12:23.360> Hamas<01:12:23.679> is
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H the truth I think is that Hamas is
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three<01:12:24.120> things<01:12:24.320> in<01:12:24.520> Gaza<01:12:24.880> and<01:12:25.360> only<01:12:25.639> one<01:12:25.840> body
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three things in Gaza and only one body
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you have like one Hamas that has to do
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with the governance in Gaza a government
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in Gaza and Hamas has stated publicly
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that<01:12:35.080> they<01:12:35.440> will<01:12:35.800> agree<01:12:36.239> to<01:12:36.440> the<01:12:36.600> forming<01:12:37.120> of<01:12:37.600> a
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that they will agree to the forming of a
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technocratic<01:12:38.400> government<01:12:38.800> with<01:12:38.960> a<01:12:39.120> certain
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technocratic government with a certain
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conditions<01:12:39.920> that<01:12:40.080> they<01:12:40.239> have<01:12:40.440> and<01:12:40.600> that's<01:12:41.040> I
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conditions that they have and that's I
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think<01:12:41.360> a<01:12:41.560> possibility<01:12:42.080> to<01:12:42.400> ending<01:12:42.960> up<01:12:43.360> with<01:12:44.040> a
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think a possibility to ending up with a
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qupa<01:12:45.120> technocratic<01:12:45.719> government<01:12:46.159> that<01:12:46.280> could
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qupa technocratic government that could
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take<01:12:46.760> over<01:12:47.320> you<01:12:47.480> know<01:12:47.600> control<01:12:47.920> in<01:12:48.120> Gaza
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take over you know control in Gaza
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because Hamas under the current
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situation<01:12:50.360> in<01:12:50.480> the<01:12:50.679> post-war<01:12:51.159> scenario<01:12:51.920> is
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situation in the post-war scenario is
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unable<01:12:52.560> to<01:12:52.719> meet<01:12:53.040> the<01:12:53.520> the<01:12:53.639> enormous<01:12:54.120> needs
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unable to meet the the enormous needs
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and<01:12:54.600> requirements<01:12:55.000> of<01:12:55.320> governing<01:12:55.800> Gaza
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and requirements of governing Gaza
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directly<01:12:57.120> the<01:12:57.239> same<01:12:57.400> way<01:12:57.600> that<01:12:57.760> they<01:12:57.960> actually
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directly the same way that they actually
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did before uh the second you know level
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of<01:13:01.199> Hamas<01:13:01.520> is<01:13:01.639> the<01:13:01.800> military<01:13:02.199> wing<01:13:02.600> and<01:13:02.760> that<01:13:02.960> I
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of Hamas is the military wing and that I
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think<01:13:03.639> you<01:13:03.760> know<01:13:04.159> with<01:13:04.320> all<01:13:04.440> the<01:13:04.639> devastation
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think you know with all the devastation
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that<01:13:05.440> has<01:13:05.600> happened<01:13:05.920> to<01:13:06.000> the<01:13:06.120> military<01:13:06.480> wing
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that has happened to the military wing
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and<01:13:07.000> the<01:13:07.120> you<01:13:07.239> know<01:13:07.360> the<01:13:07.480> infrastructure<01:13:08.120> in
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and the you know the infrastructure in
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Gaza<01:13:09.400> I<01:13:09.480> think<01:13:09.719> that<01:13:09.920> their<01:13:10.199> ability<01:13:10.600> to
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Gaza I think that their ability to
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launch<01:13:11.600> a<01:13:11.800> massive<01:13:12.239> attack<01:13:13.120> like<01:13:13.320> October<01:13:13.760> 7
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launch a massive attack like October 7
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which<01:13:14.600> incidentally<01:13:15.159> not<01:13:15.360> only<01:13:15.679> because<01:13:15.960> of
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which incidentally not only because of
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hamas's<01:13:16.600> superiority<01:13:17.199> in<01:13:17.280> terms<01:13:17.520> of<01:13:17.719> military
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hamas's superiority in terms of military
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uh<01:13:18.880> and<01:13:19.199> security<01:13:19.760> and<01:13:19.920> terrorist
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uh and security and terrorist
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capabilities<01:13:21.440> but<01:13:21.639> also<01:13:21.920> because<01:13:22.120> of<01:13:22.280> the
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capabilities but also because of the
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failure<01:13:22.719> of<01:13:22.840> the<01:13:22.920> Israeli<01:13:23.360> system<01:13:23.719> so<01:13:23.920> if<01:13:24.000> you
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failure of the Israeli system so if you
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actually<01:13:24.480> take<01:13:24.719> those<01:13:24.880> two<01:13:25.239> points<01:13:25.639> together
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actually take those two points together
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you know definitely Hamas is not going
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military<01:13:28.639> Wing<01:13:28.840> is<01:13:28.960> not<01:13:29.080> going<01:13:29.280> to<01:13:29.400> be<01:13:29.600> in<01:13:29.719> a
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military Wing is not going to be in a
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place<01:13:30.520> or<01:13:30.719> in<01:13:30.800> a<01:13:31.000> position<01:13:31.400> to<01:13:31.600> launch<01:13:32.000> an
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place or in a position to launch an
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attack<01:13:32.560> against<01:13:32.800> Israel<01:13:33.199> like<01:13:33.400> October<01:13:33.800> 7<01:13:34.639> and
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attack against Israel like October 7 and
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you<01:13:35.199> know<01:13:35.520> the<01:13:35.719> third<01:13:36.320> you<01:13:36.440> know<01:13:36.639> level<01:13:37.080> is<01:13:37.400> the
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you know the third you know level is the
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Hamas<01:13:38.360> polit<01:13:38.679> you<01:13:38.800> know<01:13:39.040> as<01:13:39.159> a<01:13:39.320> political
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Hamas polit you know as a political
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organization<01:13:40.760> and<01:13:40.920> by<01:13:41.120> the<01:13:41.239> way<01:13:41.520> the<01:13:41.800> the
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organization and by the way the the
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popular<01:13:42.560> base<01:13:42.800> of<01:13:42.960> Hamas<01:13:43.239> in<01:13:43.320> the<01:13:43.480> Gaza<01:13:44.040> Strip
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popular base of Hamas in the Gaza Strip
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in<01:13:45.320> fact<01:13:45.920> and<01:13:46.159> in<01:13:46.280> the<01:13:46.400> West<01:13:46.600> Bank<01:13:47.040> and<01:13:47.400> also<01:13:47.639> in
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in fact and in the West Bank and also in
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other<01:13:48.280> you<01:13:48.400> know<01:13:48.679> countries<01:13:49.080> where
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other you know countries where
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Palestinians<01:13:49.800> are<01:13:50.040> there<01:13:50.560> has<01:13:50.679> been<01:13:50.920> growing
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Palestinians are there has been growing
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uh<01:13:51.960> because<01:13:52.239> of<01:13:52.480> the<01:13:52.960> uh<01:13:53.320> because<01:13:53.520> of<01:13:53.679> the<01:13:53.800> war
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uh because of the uh because of the war
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the<01:13:54.239> brutality<01:13:54.840> the<01:13:55.159> way<01:13:55.280> that<01:13:55.440> civilians
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the brutality the way that civilians
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have<01:13:56.600> been<01:13:56.800> killed<01:13:57.080> and<01:13:57.239> the<01:13:57.360> way<01:13:57.560> that<01:13:57.719> it's
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have been killed and the way that it's
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perceived<01:13:58.440> by<01:13:58.600> Palestinian<01:13:59.159> public<01:13:59.760> and
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perceived by Palestinian public and
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therefore<01:14:00.360> you<01:14:00.480> know<01:14:00.639> like<01:14:00.840> Hamas<01:14:01.199> is<01:14:01.280> a
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therefore you know like Hamas is a
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political organization I think you know
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you<01:14:04.159> can<01:14:04.719> move<01:14:04.920> it<01:14:05.080> to<01:14:05.199> the<01:14:05.400> side<01:14:05.639> corner<01:14:06.040> it
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you can move it to the side corner it
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but<01:14:06.360> you<01:14:06.480> can't<01:14:06.719> totally<01:14:07.080> eliminate<01:14:07.520> it
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but you can't totally eliminate it
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whereas<01:14:08.320> you<01:14:08.400> know<01:14:08.600> the<01:14:08.719> other<01:14:08.960> two<01:14:09.159> elements
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whereas you know the other two elements
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or<01:14:09.719> bodies<01:14:10.040> or<01:14:10.199> structures<01:14:10.639> of<01:14:10.840> Hamas<01:14:11.199> as<01:14:11.320> a
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or bodies or structures of Hamas as a
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government<01:14:12.360> and<01:14:13.159> uh<01:14:13.520> um<01:14:13.880> as<01:14:14.080> a<01:14:14.239> military<01:14:14.639> Wing
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government and uh um as a military Wing
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can<01:14:15.400> actually<01:14:15.679> be<01:14:16.199> treated<01:14:16.719> with<01:14:17.280> and<01:14:17.400> dealt
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can actually be treated with and dealt
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with<01:14:17.920> in<01:14:18.120> light<01:14:18.320> of<01:14:18.560> the<01:14:19.560> of<01:14:19.679> the<01:14:19.760> war<01:14:19.960> and<01:14:20.080> its
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with in light of the of the war and its
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outcome<01:14:21.159> in<01:14:21.320> short<01:14:21.800> in<01:14:21.920> order<01:14:22.199> to<01:14:22.440> actually
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outcome in short in order to actually
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get<01:14:22.960> to<01:14:23.120> a<01:14:23.280> situation<01:14:23.840> where<01:14:24.000> you<01:14:24.159> can
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get to a situation where you can
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actually<01:14:25.280> move<01:14:25.600> into<01:14:25.840> an<01:14:26.080> actionable<01:14:26.560> plan
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actually move into an actionable plan
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and<01:14:26.960> a<01:14:27.080> scenario<01:14:27.840> you<01:14:28.199> simply<01:14:29.040> need<01:14:29.679> sensible
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and a scenario you simply need sensible
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not<01:14:30.639> an<01:14:30.880> ideolog<01:14:31.520> driven<01:14:32.159> Israeli<01:14:32.600> government
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not an ideolog driven Israeli government
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that<01:14:33.199> helps<01:14:33.480> the<01:14:33.600> Palestinian<01:14:34.080> Authority<01:14:34.520> to
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that helps the Palestinian Authority to
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actually<01:14:35.360> Take<01:14:35.600> Over<01:14:36.040> Control<01:14:36.400> in<01:14:36.600> Gaza<01:14:37.239> helps
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actually Take Over Control in Gaza helps
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the Palestinian Authority to basically
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you know create a formation of
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governance<01:14:42.080> in<01:14:42.320> Gaza<01:14:42.679> whether<01:14:42.920> it<01:14:43.040> be
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governance in Gaza whether it be
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civilian<01:14:43.760> or<01:14:44.199> Security<01:14:45.000> in<01:14:45.120> order<01:14:45.480> to<01:14:46.360> um<01:14:46.840> you
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civilian or Security in order to um you
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know<01:14:47.239> like<01:14:47.520> push<01:14:47.840> Hamas<01:14:48.760> aside<01:14:49.600> and<01:14:49.840> and<01:14:49.960> move
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know like push Hamas aside and and move
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forward<01:14:50.600> from<01:14:50.880> that<01:14:51.080> point<01:14:51.679> but<01:14:52.000> you<01:14:52.159> know<01:14:52.320> in
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forward from that point but you know in
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a situation where it's no Hamas and no
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and<01:14:55.480> no<01:14:55.639> Palestinian<01:14:56.120> Authority<01:14:56.600> and<01:14:56.760> we
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and no Palestinian Authority and we
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would like to have some you know
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favorable<01:14:58.920> Palestinians<01:14:59.600> that<01:14:59.719> we<01:14:59.840> would
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favorable Palestinians that we would
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like to work with under a civil
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Administration<01:15:02.600> and<01:15:02.920> the<01:15:03.080> direct<01:15:03.360> military
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Administration and the direct military
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rule it's going back to the 70s and 80s
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and the you know starting the struggle
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in so many different ways uh you know a
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new and with that I think I would um I
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would finish and if you have any uh
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questions or comments I I would be more
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than<01:15:17.280> happy<01:15:17.520> to<01:15:17.719> answer<01:15:18.639> thank<01:15:18.840> youim<01:15:19.320> and<01:15:19.480> and
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than happy to answer thank youim and and
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so I'm going to Pivot to Kareem then
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we'll take a couple more audience
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questions and wrap but uh Ambassador he
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geg um so there is the uh it's it's very
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clear<01:15:29.679> that<01:15:29.800> Egypt<01:15:30.120> is<01:15:30.199> a<01:15:30.400> critical<01:15:31.000> actor<01:15:31.239> for
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clear that Egypt is a critical actor for
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all<01:15:31.560> of<01:15:31.679> gaza's<01:15:32.120> next<01:15:32.360> steps<01:15:33.199> uh<01:15:33.360> Ibrahim<01:15:33.800> laid
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all of gaza's next steps uh Ibrahim laid
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out<01:15:34.639> four<01:15:35.440> potential<01:15:35.840> scenarios<01:15:36.400> for<01:15:36.639> what
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out four potential scenarios for what
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the security situation how it would be
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handled<01:15:38.760> in<01:15:38.920> Gaza<01:15:39.280> going<01:15:39.520> forward<01:15:40.080> a
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handled in Gaza going forward a
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multinational<01:15:40.960> force<01:15:41.920> uh<01:15:42.040> is<01:15:42.440> difficult<01:15:42.600> or
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multinational force uh is difficult or
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impossible<01:15:43.480> pa<01:15:44.480> uh<01:15:44.560> ownership<01:15:45.239> which<01:15:45.400> is<01:15:45.920> uh
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impossible pa uh ownership which is uh
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maybe<01:15:46.960> not<01:15:47.280> feasible<01:15:48.280> uh<01:15:48.400> Israeli<01:15:48.840> control
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maybe not feasible uh Israeli control
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which<01:15:49.560> is<01:15:49.800> very<01:15:50.120> possible<01:15:50.600> but<01:15:50.960> uh
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which is very possible but uh
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potentially<01:15:52.520> uh<01:15:53.120> the<01:15:53.280> recipe<01:15:53.679> for<01:15:53.920> long-term
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potentially uh the recipe for long-term
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Insurgency<01:15:56.199> um<01:15:57.360> trouble<01:15:58.360> um<01:15:58.520> and<01:15:58.639> then<01:15:58.760> some
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Insurgency um trouble um and then some
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kind<01:15:59.080> of<01:15:59.280> Quasi<01:15:59.880> Palestinian<01:16:00.400> Authority<01:16:00.880> that
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kind of Quasi Palestinian Authority that
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that<01:16:01.800> Ibrahim<01:16:02.199> laid<01:16:02.360> out<01:16:02.719> there<01:16:03.199> um<01:16:03.360> I<01:16:03.440> wanted
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that Ibrahim laid out there um I wanted
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to get your one reactions to those
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different<01:16:06.520> um<01:16:06.840> possibilities<01:16:07.560> and<01:16:07.800> and<01:16:08.120> what
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different um possibilities and and what
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the<01:16:08.719> Egyptian<01:16:09.600> vision<01:16:09.960> for<01:16:10.600> response<01:16:10.960> of<01:16:11.159> that
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the Egyptian vision for response of that
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would<01:16:11.480> be<01:16:12.480> uh<01:16:12.679> two<01:16:13.480> as<01:16:13.600> someone<01:16:13.800> that's
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would be uh two as someone that's
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thought about uh Regional security for
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so<01:16:16.320> long<01:16:17.199> um<01:16:18.199> what<01:16:18.360> is<01:16:18.679> the<01:16:19.199> sense<01:16:19.679> of<01:16:19.960> a<01:16:20.480> uh<01:16:21.120> the
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so long um what is the sense of a uh the
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feasibility<01:16:21.920> of<01:16:22.040> a<01:16:22.120> multinational<01:16:22.800> Force
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feasibility of a multinational Force
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taking<01:16:23.840> uh<01:16:24.040> taking<01:16:25.239> uh<01:16:25.440> some<01:16:25.639> kind<01:16:25.760> of
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taking uh taking uh some kind of
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temporary<01:16:26.600> mandate<01:16:27.520> uh<01:16:27.639> to<01:16:27.960> to<01:16:28.719> run<01:16:29.080> Gaza
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temporary mandate uh to to run Gaza
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until<01:16:29.639> it<01:16:29.719> could<01:16:29.880> be<01:16:30.040> handed<01:16:30.320> over<01:16:30.600> to<01:16:31.320> um
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until it could be handed over to um
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Palestinians to run what would be
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Egypt's<01:16:33.440> requirements<01:16:33.880> for<01:16:34.040> doing<01:16:34.280> so<01:16:34.480> its
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Egypt's requirements for doing so its
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capacity<01:16:35.080> to<01:16:35.239> do<01:16:35.440> so<01:16:35.719> and<01:16:36.360> how<01:16:36.480> does<01:16:36.600> it<01:16:36.760> relate
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capacity to do so and how does it relate
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to<01:16:38.360> uh<01:16:38.560> the<01:16:38.639> Egyptian<01:16:39.040> relationship<01:16:39.440> to
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to uh the Egyptian relationship to
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Israel<01:16:40.159> and<01:16:40.320> the<01:16:40.400> United<01:16:40.840> States<01:16:41.840> uh<01:16:41.960> and<01:16:42.040> then
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Israel and the United States uh and then
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finally<01:16:42.400> there<01:16:42.480> were<01:16:42.600> a<01:16:42.679> couple<01:16:42.880> of<01:16:43.000> questions
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finally there were a couple of questions
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in the chat about uh Egyptian commitment
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to<01:16:46.159> preventing<01:16:46.840> smuggling<01:16:47.840> uh<01:16:48.400> in<01:16:48.560> the
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to preventing smuggling uh in the
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postwar<01:16:49.840> uh<01:16:50.000> era<01:16:50.320> so<01:16:50.679> has<01:16:50.800> there<01:16:51.000> been<01:16:51.280> a<01:16:52.080> any
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postwar uh era so has there been a any
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kind<01:16:52.400> of<01:16:52.679> change<01:16:53.400> in<01:16:54.080> um<01:16:54.480> egyp<01:16:55.159> the<01:16:55.320> security
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kind of change in um egyp the security
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apparatus<01:16:56.159> is<01:16:56.440> thinking<01:16:57.440> uh<01:16:57.560> about<01:16:57.800> how
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apparatus is thinking uh about how
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smuggling<01:16:58.320> is<01:16:58.480> addressed<01:16:58.760> and<01:16:58.920> again
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smuggling is addressed and again
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apologies<01:17:00.280> that<01:17:00.400> I'm<01:17:00.560> I'm<01:17:00.679> giving<01:17:00.920> you<01:17:01.320> a<01:17:01.480> lot
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apologies that I'm I'm giving you a lot
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of<01:17:01.760> big<01:17:01.960> questions<01:17:02.320> for<01:17:02.520> only<01:17:02.679> a<01:17:02.800> few<01:17:03.040> minutes
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of big questions for only a few minutes
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but<01:17:03.840> over<01:17:04.040> to<01:17:04.199> you
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but over to you
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Kareem<01:17:07.040> uh<01:17:07.239> thank<01:17:07.400> you<01:17:07.600> Robert<01:17:08.520> uh<01:17:09.159> I<01:17:09.239> will<01:17:09.440> be
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Kareem uh thank you Robert uh I will be
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very brief so I completely concur with
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what ibraim uh mentioned about the
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difficulty<01:17:17.400> of<01:17:18.239> uh<01:17:18.440> each<01:17:18.639> of<01:17:18.880> these<01:17:19.520> options
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difficulty of uh each of these options
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uh to add to the challenge and the
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difficulty<01:17:24.520> I<01:17:24.639> would<01:17:25.080> actually<01:17:25.520> Advocate
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difficulty I would actually Advocate
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that we need to do uh all or most of
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these<01:17:29.679> options<01:17:31.000> together<01:17:32.000> so<01:17:32.800> let<01:17:33.360> let's
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these options together so let let's
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think<01:17:33.840> of<01:17:34.040> this<01:17:34.360> as<01:17:34.480> a<01:17:34.719> series<01:17:35.080> of<01:17:35.520> problems<01:17:36.480> uh
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think of this as a series of problems uh
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that<01:17:36.840> need<01:17:37.840> uh
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that need uh
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Solutions<01:17:39.920> let's<01:17:40.080> try<01:17:40.239> and<01:17:40.400> distinguish
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Solutions let's try and distinguish
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between<01:17:41.239> these<01:17:41.520> problems<01:17:42.480> to<01:17:42.719> deal<01:17:43.120> with<01:17:43.320> the
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between these problems to deal with the
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problem<01:17:44.159> of<01:17:44.600> governance<01:17:45.199> and<01:17:45.560> Security
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problem of governance and Security
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postwar<01:17:47.159> in<01:17:47.600> Gaza<01:17:48.600> uh<01:17:48.760> there<01:17:49.000> really<01:17:49.320> seems
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postwar in Gaza uh there really seems
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very<01:17:50.320> little<01:17:50.760> alternative<01:17:51.600> to<01:17:52.159> some<01:17:52.600> form<01:17:53.239> of
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very little alternative to some form of
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international<01:17:54.480> for<01:17:54.840> force<01:17:55.560> uh<01:17:55.679> in<01:17:56.159> Gaza<01:17:57.159> now<01:17:57.719> I
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international for force uh in Gaza now I
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I<01:17:58.440> completely<01:17:59.280> agree<01:17:59.960> about<01:18:00.760> the<01:18:01.199> hesitance
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I completely agree about the hesitance
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and reluctancy of Most states to
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participate<01:18:05.120> uh<01:18:05.239> in<01:18:05.440> this<01:18:05.800> Force<01:18:06.800> which<01:18:06.960> is
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participate uh in this Force which is
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why<01:18:07.480> we<01:18:07.600> need<01:18:07.800> to<01:18:08.000> begin<01:18:08.320> to<01:18:08.560> think<01:18:08.840> seriously
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why we need to begin to think seriously
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about<01:18:09.840> the<01:18:10.120> Mandate<01:18:10.800> for<01:18:11.120> this<01:18:11.560> Force<01:18:12.560> I<01:18:12.719> do
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about the Mandate for this Force I do
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not<01:18:13.560> foresee<01:18:14.560> a<01:18:15.040> mandate<01:18:15.679> in<01:18:15.840> the<01:18:16.000> form<01:18:16.600> of<01:18:16.880> a
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not foresee a mandate in the form of a
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un<01:18:17.520> Security<01:18:18.040> Council<01:18:18.800> resolution<01:18:19.800> uh
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un Security Council resolution uh
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establishing<01:18:20.800> this<01:18:20.960> Force<01:18:21.360> setting<01:18:21.639> out<01:18:21.840> the
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establishing this Force setting out the
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parameters<01:18:22.520> of<01:18:22.760> this<01:18:22.920> Force<01:18:23.840> without<01:18:24.520> it
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parameters of this Force without it
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being<01:18:25.159> linked<01:18:26.159> uh<01:18:26.679> specifically<01:18:27.960> explicitly
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being linked uh specifically explicitly
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to<01:18:29.679> the<01:18:30.000> references<01:18:30.639> for<01:18:31.040> two<01:18:31.360> states<01:18:32.120> right
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to the references for two states right
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so<01:18:33.159> we<01:18:33.360> we<01:18:33.440> would<01:18:33.719> have<01:18:33.880> to<01:18:34.120> get<01:18:34.880> a<01:18:35.080> force<01:18:35.920> with
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so we we would have to get a force with
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a<01:18:36.280> with<01:18:36.360> a<01:18:36.520> mandate<01:18:37.040> linked<01:18:37.400> to<01:18:37.639> the
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a with a mandate linked to the
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principles<01:18:38.280> of<01:18:38.440> land<01:18:38.719> for<01:18:39.000> peace<01:18:39.760> two-state
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principles of land for peace two-state
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solution<01:18:41.560> possibly<01:18:42.000> the<01:18:42.199> 67<01:18:43.080> borders<01:18:44.080> uh
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solution possibly the 67 borders uh
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Jerusalem<01:18:44.960> as<01:18:45.199> the<01:18:45.440> capital<01:18:45.760> of<01:18:45.920> two<01:18:46.199> states
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Jerusalem as the capital of two states
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uh<01:18:47.520> uh<01:18:47.719> Etc<01:18:48.639> that<01:18:48.840> is<01:18:49.000> the<01:18:49.199> only<01:18:49.639> way<01:18:50.120> we<01:18:50.480> we
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uh uh Etc that is the only way we we
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will<01:18:50.880> probably<01:18:51.280> get<01:18:51.600> International
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will probably get International
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consensus<01:18:53.679> on<01:18:54.000> the<01:18:54.199> establish<01:18:55.080> of<01:18:55.280> this<01:18:55.480> type
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consensus on the establish of this type
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of<01:18:55.960> force<01:18:56.960> to<01:18:57.239> deal<01:18:57.639> with<01:18:58.040> the<01:18:59.040> Palestinian
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of force to deal with the Palestinian
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legitimacy<01:19:01.239> issue<01:19:02.239> yes<01:19:02.679> I<01:19:02.920> I<01:19:03.040> think<01:19:03.280> that<01:19:03.440> the
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legitimacy issue yes I I think that the
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PA<01:19:04.080> is<01:19:04.239> in<01:19:04.480> no<01:19:05.000> way<01:19:05.280> shape<01:19:05.600> or<01:19:05.840> form<01:19:06.360> ready<01:19:06.800> to
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PA is in no way shape or form ready to
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assume<01:19:07.600> governance<01:19:08.080> in<01:19:08.480> Gaza<01:19:09.480> that<01:19:09.600> is<01:19:09.960> why<01:19:10.920> I
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assume governance in Gaza that is why I
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think<01:19:11.320> ideally<01:19:12.159> we<01:19:12.280> would<01:19:12.560> have<01:19:12.760> to<01:19:13.000> have<01:19:13.280> the
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think ideally we would have to have the
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establishment<01:19:14.239> of<01:19:14.480> this<01:19:14.960> uh<01:19:15.080> International
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establishment of this uh International
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Force<01:19:16.719> coupled<01:19:17.239> with<01:19:17.600> some<01:19:18.000> form<01:19:18.560> of<01:19:19.600> symbolic
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Force coupled with some form of symbolic
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Palestinian<01:19:21.600> presence<01:19:22.040> in<01:19:22.199> the<01:19:22.400> form<01:19:23.080> of<01:19:23.520> a<01:19:24.320> uh
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Palestinian presence in the form of a uh
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consensus<01:19:25.360> government<01:19:25.920> for<01:19:26.560> the<01:19:26.760> West<01:19:27.080> Bank
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consensus government for the West Bank
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and<01:19:28.400> Gaza<01:19:29.400> uh<01:19:29.600> that<01:19:29.760> would<01:19:29.960> lend<01:19:30.480> legitimacy
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and Gaza uh that would lend legitimacy
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to<01:19:31.920> this
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to this
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arrangement<01:19:33.679> to<01:19:33.880> deal<01:19:34.199> with<01:19:34.360> the<01:19:34.560> Hamas
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arrangement to deal with the Hamas
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problem<01:19:36.040> so<01:19:36.360> I<01:19:36.560> I<01:19:36.639> think<01:19:36.840> it's<01:19:37.159> becoming
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problem so I I think it's becoming
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evidently<01:19:38.400> clear<01:19:39.000> that<01:19:39.239> there<01:19:39.480> is<01:19:39.800> no
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evidently clear that there is no
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military<01:19:40.920> solution<01:19:41.480> to<01:19:42.120> the<01:19:42.400> Hamas<01:19:43.120> problem
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military solution to the Hamas problem
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the<01:19:44.320> only<01:19:44.760> potential<01:19:45.360> solution<01:19:46.000> is<01:19:46.320> a
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the only potential solution is a
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political<01:19:47.280> one<01:19:48.280> now<01:19:48.719> that<01:19:48.880> can<01:19:49.080> take<01:19:49.320> many
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political one now that can take many
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forms<01:19:50.560> that<01:19:50.719> can<01:19:50.960> take<01:19:51.159> the<01:19:51.360> form<01:19:51.920> of<01:19:52.400> some
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forms that can take the form of some
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form<01:19:53.080> of<01:19:53.639> reconciliation<01:19:54.719> agreement<01:19:55.120> between
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form of reconciliation agreement between
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fat<01:19:55.960> and<01:19:56.159> Hamas<01:19:56.840> as<01:19:57.159> Egypt<01:19:57.679> has<01:19:58.480> strived<01:19:59.480> to<01:19:59.679> do
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fat and Hamas as Egypt has strived to do
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for<01:20:00.560> decades<01:20:01.199> now<01:20:01.520> ever<01:20:01.800> since<01:20:02.480> hamas's<01:20:03.000> take
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for decades now ever since hamas's take
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over<01:20:03.560> of<01:20:03.760> Gaza<01:20:04.159> in<01:20:04.800> 2007<01:20:05.800> or<01:20:06.199> it<01:20:06.320> could<01:20:06.520> take
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over of Gaza in 2007 or it could take
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the<01:20:06.880> form<01:20:07.400> of<01:20:07.679> basic<01:20:08.719> understandings<01:20:09.719> between
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the form of basic understandings between
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the<01:20:10.280> PA<01:20:10.800> and<01:20:11.040> hamz<01:20:11.560> as<01:20:11.719> I<01:20:11.800> think<01:20:12.040> ibraim
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the PA and hamz as I think ibraim
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mentioned<01:20:13.679> quite<01:20:14.000> correctly<01:20:15.000> so<01:20:15.560> that<01:20:15.800> hamz
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mentioned quite correctly so that hamz
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does<01:20:16.719> not<01:20:17.560> be<01:20:18.239> a
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does not be a
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spoiler<01:20:20.000> the<01:20:20.199> the<01:20:20.400> key<01:20:20.679> Point<01:20:21.040> here<01:20:21.400> is<01:20:21.679> that
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spoiler the the key Point here is that
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all<01:20:22.400> of<01:20:22.600> these<01:20:22.920> problems<01:20:23.360> are<01:20:23.600> linked<01:20:24.960> and<01:20:25.520> the
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all of these problems are linked and the
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only<01:20:26.159> way<01:20:26.840> these<01:20:27.520> Solutions<01:20:28.320> become<01:20:28.920> actually
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only way these Solutions become actually
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operable<01:20:30.560> right<01:20:30.760> I'm<01:20:30.880> not<01:20:31.040> saying<01:20:31.360> easy<01:20:31.760> but
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operable right I'm not saying easy but
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operable<01:20:33.040> and<01:20:33.520> conceivable<01:20:34.520> is<01:20:35.159> within<01:20:35.679> the
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operable and conceivable is within the
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context<01:20:36.480> of<01:20:36.760> a<01:20:37.040> serious<01:20:37.600> road<01:20:38.040> map<01:20:38.520> back<01:20:38.719> to
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context of a serious road map back to
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two<01:20:39.199> states<01:20:40.199> once<01:20:40.440> you<01:20:40.679> do<01:20:40.960> have<01:20:41.239> that<01:20:41.520> it
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two states once you do have that it
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becomes<01:20:42.199> conceivable<01:20:43.159> to<01:20:43.400> actually<01:20:43.840> think<01:20:44.400> of
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becomes conceivable to actually think of
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an<01:20:45.320> international<01:20:45.960> Force<01:20:46.800> to<01:20:47.040> think<01:20:47.360> of
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an international Force to think of
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Palestinian<01:20:48.400> reconciliation<01:20:49.400> to<01:20:49.639> think<01:20:50.120> of<01:20:50.440> a
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Palestinian reconciliation to think of a
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return<01:20:51.360> of<01:20:51.560> the<01:20:51.800> PA<01:20:52.800> back<01:20:53.000> to<01:20:53.199> Gaza<01:20:54.080> final
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return of the PA back to Gaza final
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point<01:20:54.840> I<01:20:54.920> will<01:20:55.159> make<01:20:55.960> yes<01:20:56.480> these<01:20:56.600> are<01:20:56.840> all<01:20:57.120> very
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point I will make yes these are all very
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difficult<01:20:58.120> Solutions<01:20:59.120> but<01:20:59.600> if<01:20:59.719> you<01:20:59.880> think
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difficult Solutions but if you think
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these<01:21:00.280> are<01:21:00.760> difficults<01:21:01.159> I<01:21:01.239> would<01:21:01.480> ask<01:21:01.719> you<01:21:01.840> to
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these are difficults I would ask you to
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pause<01:21:02.760> and<01:21:03.000> reflect<01:21:03.520> on<01:21:03.800> what<01:21:03.920> Shir<01:21:04.440> mentioned
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pause and reflect on what Shir mentioned
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so<01:21:05.400> I<01:21:05.520> think<01:21:05.639> she<01:21:05.840> got<01:21:06.159> it<01:21:06.560> absolutely<01:21:07.280> right
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so I think she got it absolutely right
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we<01:21:08.360> may<01:21:08.760> have<01:21:09.320> we<01:21:09.440> may<01:21:09.679> end<01:21:09.920> up<01:21:10.199> with<01:21:10.880> the<01:21:11.120> worst
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we may have we may end up with the worst
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of<01:21:11.679> all<01:21:11.920> worlds<01:21:12.520> in<01:21:13.199> Gaza<01:21:14.199> with<01:21:14.679> the
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of all worlds in Gaza with the
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reestablishment<01:21:16.040> of<01:21:16.400> Israeli<01:21:16.920> military
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reestablishment of Israeli military
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occupation<01:21:18.199> in<01:21:18.639> Gaza<01:21:19.639> with<01:21:19.920> Hamas<01:21:20.840> still<01:21:21.560> very
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occupation in Gaza with Hamas still very
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much<01:21:22.159> a<01:21:22.440> presence<01:21:23.080> in<01:21:23.320> Gaza<01:21:24.320> a<01:21:24.960> continuation
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much a presence in Gaza a continuation
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of<01:21:26.199> the<01:21:26.320> armed<01:21:26.760> conflict<01:21:27.239> between<01:21:27.639> Hanes<01:21:28.320> and
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of the armed conflict between Hanes and
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Israel<01:21:29.719> probably<01:21:30.719> uh<01:21:31.280> involving<01:21:31.960> other
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Israel probably uh involving other
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Palestinian factions we will have a
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serious humanitarian problem in Gaza we
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will have a wasteland situation as
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ibraim<01:21:42.400> mentioned<01:21:43.320> so<01:21:43.880> if<01:21:44.080> all<01:21:44.239> of<01:21:44.639> these<01:21:45.639> uh
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ibraim mentioned so if all of these uh
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potential Solutions look difficult I
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would seriously suggest that we look at
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the alternative and the alternative
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seems uh
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Le uh thank you Kim uh now we are um
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going to move for the um audience
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question uh and I'm GNA start with you
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Shir<01:22:04.000> because<01:22:04.199> I<01:22:04.320> know<01:22:04.440> you<01:22:04.600> need<01:22:04.760> to<01:22:05.360> um<01:22:05.560> hop
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Shir because I know you need to um hop
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off this call uh there is a really good
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question from nabila Al mullah from the
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American<01:22:10.880> University<01:22:11.440> of<01:22:11.639> Kuwait<01:22:12.159> regarding
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American University of Kuwait regarding
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Ona and Shir you I know that you
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recently in collaboration with Jess
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manvil<01:22:18.679> and<01:22:19.000> Seline<01:22:19.400> Tulu<01:22:20.400> uh<01:22:20.520> published<01:22:20.920> this
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manvil and Seline Tulu uh published this
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report<01:22:21.480> around<01:22:21.840> hona<01:22:22.360> and<01:22:22.480> the<01:22:22.639> question<01:22:23.040> is
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report around hona and the question is
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uh<01:22:23.960> honor<01:22:24.639> has<01:22:24.840> a<01:22:25.080> positive<01:22:25.560> record<01:22:26.239> as<01:22:26.400> an
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uh honor has a positive record as an
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efficient<01:22:27.639> administrator<01:22:28.639> uh<01:22:28.760> could<01:22:29.000> its
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efficient administrator uh could its
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role<01:22:29.560> be<01:22:29.800> supported<01:22:30.360> and<01:22:30.679> expanded<01:22:31.520> by<01:22:31.679> the
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role be supported and expanded by the
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coal<01:22:32.520> by<01:22:32.679> the<01:22:32.800> Coalition<01:22:33.280> of<01:22:33.440> the<01:22:33.560> Willing
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coal by the Coalition of the Willing
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very<01:22:34.400> quickly<01:22:34.719> if<01:22:34.840> you<01:22:34.960> can<01:22:35.159> tap<01:22:35.400> on<01:22:35.560> this
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very quickly if you can tap on this
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please<01:22:36.400> okay<01:22:36.560> so<01:22:36.719> I'll<01:22:36.880> just<01:22:37.040> say<01:22:37.480> the<01:22:37.679> the
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please okay so I'll just say the the
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report<01:22:38.199> on<01:22:38.400> onra<01:22:38.920> was<01:22:39.080> not<01:22:39.360> with<01:22:39.560> Selen<01:22:39.840> tuble
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report on onra was not with Selen tuble
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just<01:22:40.280> with<01:22:40.480> just<01:22:40.679> Manville<01:22:41.600> I<01:22:41.719> don't
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just with just Manville I don't
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see I don't see HRA can expand uh for a
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variety<01:22:47.080> of<01:22:47.239> reason<01:22:47.719> it's<01:22:47.920> not<01:22:48.120> a<01:22:48.320> sustainable
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variety of reason it's not a sustainable
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model<01:22:49.920> uh<01:22:50.120> their<01:22:50.560> their<01:22:50.800> beneficiaries<01:22:51.760> keep
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model uh their their beneficiaries keep
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growing<01:22:52.600> with<01:22:52.760> their<01:22:52.920> funding<01:22:53.520> keeps<01:22:54.120> uh
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growing with their funding keeps uh
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decreasing<01:22:55.880> um<01:22:56.199> there<01:22:56.520> it's<01:22:56.639> a<01:22:56.920> big<01:22:57.199> big
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decreasing um there it's a big big
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question and onra has been is going to
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remain<01:23:00.080> vital<01:23:00.560> for<01:23:01.040> the<01:23:01.239> recovery<01:23:01.679> and
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remain vital for the recovery and
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reconstruction<01:23:02.920> of<01:23:03.159> Gaza<01:23:03.600> but<01:23:03.760> even<01:23:04.120> you<01:23:04.280> know
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reconstruction of Gaza but even you know
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we<01:23:04.800> interviewed<01:23:05.239> for<01:23:05.400> this<01:23:05.520> report<01:23:05.840> also
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we interviewed for this report also
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people<01:23:06.480> working<01:23:06.840> for<01:23:07.120> unra<01:23:07.560> and<01:23:07.800> some<01:23:08.040> things
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people working for unra and some things
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unra<01:23:08.760> does<01:23:09.040> better<01:23:09.320> than<01:23:09.480> other<01:23:09.719> agencies<01:23:10.159> but
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unra does better than other agencies but
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there's some things that in fact they
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should<01:23:12.719> um<01:23:13.000> some<01:23:13.159> of<01:23:13.280> the<01:23:13.400> services<01:23:13.920> should<01:23:14.159> be
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should um some of the services should be
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distributed<01:23:14.840> to<01:23:15.000> other<01:23:15.320> agencies<01:23:16.320> um<01:23:16.440> and
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distributed to other agencies um and
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eventually<01:23:17.120> with<01:23:17.280> the<01:23:17.400> whole<01:23:17.679> right<01:23:17.960> with
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eventually with the whole right with
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everything that we're talking about um
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transition to a Palestinian state if in
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Shah we ever see one
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thank you we'll take another uh question
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from um Jonathan Walters from the United
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States around uh reconstruction and will
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it be possible for some level of
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cooperation<01:23:37.960> uh<01:23:38.120> from<01:23:38.679> governments<01:23:39.679> um<01:23:40.080> um
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cooperation uh from governments um um
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Arab governments like Egypt or even from
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Israel<01:23:43.120> and<01:23:43.280> what<01:23:43.440> will<01:23:43.600> dor<01:23:44.520> countries<01:23:45.120> have
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Israel and what will dor countries have
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to use uh with Egypt and Israel uh to
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get<01:23:49.360> that<01:23:49.600> cooperation<01:23:50.199> maybe<01:23:50.440> I'm<01:23:50.560> going<01:23:50.639> to
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get that cooperation maybe I'm going to
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go<01:23:50.920> to<01:23:51.080> ibraim<01:23:51.560> for<01:23:51.760> that<01:23:52.480> question<01:23:53.480> thank<01:23:53.639> you
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go to ibraim for that question thank you
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for<01:23:54.320> uh
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for uh
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uh I think it's actually for governments
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to decide whether it's Lo Community
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Europe us um Arab countries wealthy Arab
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countries<01:24:06.000> and<01:24:06.199> and<01:24:06.280> the<01:24:06.440> like<01:24:06.719> but<01:24:07.040> I<01:24:07.159> think
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countries and and the like but I think
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frankly<01:24:08.960> um<01:24:09.320> as<01:24:09.440> an<01:24:09.679> observer<01:24:10.280> I<01:24:10.400> would
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frankly um as an observer I would
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actually say that reconstruction is the
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latter<01:24:13.480> phase<01:24:14.480> of<01:24:15.159> you<01:24:15.280> know<01:24:15.600> that<01:24:15.920> requires
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latter phase of you know that requires
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first you stabilize the situation you
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provide<01:24:19.639> relief<01:24:20.120> and<01:24:20.239> then<01:24:20.400> you<01:24:20.520> start<01:24:20.800> a
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provide relief and then you start a
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process<01:24:21.400> and<01:24:21.520> then<01:24:21.639> you<01:24:21.760> move<01:24:22.000> to
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process and then you move to
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reconstruction<01:24:23.440> I<01:24:23.600> I<01:24:23.719> think<01:24:23.920> president<01:24:24.440> Biden
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reconstruction I I think president Biden
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has even mentioned in his last speech uh
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the urgent need for Sheltering for
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basically<01:24:30.639> relief<01:24:31.400> before<01:24:31.679> you<01:24:31.840> get<01:24:32.000> to
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basically relief before you get to
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reconstruction<01:24:32.920> now<01:24:33.159> before<01:24:33.560> that<01:24:34.000> there<01:24:34.159> is
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reconstruction now before that there is
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the prerequisite of of getting to an
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arrangement<01:24:37.960> where<01:24:38.480> uh<01:24:38.639> hostilities<01:24:39.400> end<01:24:40.080> and
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arrangement where uh hostilities end and
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then you move to that so I think it's a
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it's a far you know sort of like it's
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not an immediate question and there are
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so many different views and so many
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different analysis in terms of how much
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uh you know countries and how many of
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those countries are willing uh to
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contribute<01:24:53.880> to<01:24:53.960> a<01:24:54.080> process<01:24:54.520> of
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contribute to a process of
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reconstruction<01:24:55.560> but<01:24:55.679> I<01:24:55.800> don't<01:24:56.000> really<01:24:56.239> see
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reconstruction but I don't really see
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any of that happening before we get
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first to um end of hostilities uh you
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know like relief and stabilization and
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then moving to reconstruction so in some
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ways you know it's a valid question but
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it's<01:25:10.840> a<01:25:11.080> you<01:25:11.199> know<01:25:11.360> like<01:25:11.520> it's<01:25:11.639> a<01:25:11.800> deferred<01:25:12.639> uh
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it's a you know like it's a deferred uh
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question because we have not even
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started with uh first things first kind
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of situation now thinking about it is
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important planning for it is important
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but um but I I
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but I do think again that without moving
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towards you know like a ladder starting
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from from the bottom up we want to uh
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even<01:25:33.840> get<01:25:34.520> to<01:25:34.760> to<01:25:35.320> to<01:25:35.560> that<01:25:35.760> stage
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even get to to to that stage
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sadly<01:25:38.920> uh<01:25:39.080> thank<01:25:39.239> you<01:25:39.440> Brahim<01:25:40.080> there<01:25:40.199> are
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sadly uh thank you Brahim there are
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really good question at the in the chat
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unfortunately<01:25:44.400> we<01:25:44.520> will<01:25:44.719> not<01:25:45.000> be<01:25:45.159> able<01:25:45.480> to<01:25:45.679> go
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unfortunately we will not be able to go
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uh<01:25:46.639> for<01:25:46.840> all<01:25:47.000> of<01:25:47.199> these<01:25:47.440> questions<01:25:48.400> uh<01:25:48.520> but
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uh for all of these questions uh but
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thank<01:25:48.840> you<01:25:48.960> so<01:25:49.159> much<01:25:49.600> uh<01:25:49.719> for<01:25:50.000> your<01:25:50.239> engagement
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thank you so much uh for your engagement
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and<01:25:51.119> for<01:25:51.360> the<01:25:51.560> brilliant<01:25:52.560> um<01:25:52.719> you<01:25:52.800> know
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and for the brilliant um you know
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contribution uh that you had I'm going
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to move to uh Steve right now over my
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position to uh end this uh no one wants
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to end uh and uh and also this is been
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so important and yet we haven't been
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able to answer all the questions and
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we're going to try to figure out how to
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do that either personally or uh in
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another session or uh whatever but it
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certainly<01:26:23.719> shows<01:26:24.440> us<01:26:25.159> what<01:26:25.320> the<01:26:25.560> very<01:26:26.159> great
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certainly shows us what the very great
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problems are my list would be Gaza
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Israeli<01:26:31.119> pal<01:26:31.800> Israeli<01:26:32.480> EG<01:26:33.280> uh<01:26:33.560> Egypt<01:26:34.560> uh<01:26:34.719> the
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Israeli pal Israeli EG uh Egypt uh the
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whole problem of um uh uh the uh
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situation<01:26:41.840> uh<01:26:42.360> for<01:26:43.360> uh<01:26:43.719> Palestinians<01:26:44.679> in<01:26:45.000> the
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situation uh for uh Palestinians in the
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uh area that is in
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controversy uh and Lebanon so that's uh
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uh that's a lot uh that we have to uh uh
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worry<01:26:56.600> about<01:26:56.880> and<01:26:57.040> of<01:26:57.199> course<01:26:57.639> all<01:26:57.760> of<01:26:57.880> us<01:26:58.040> have
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worry about and of course all of us have
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been focusing on Gaza uh and it shows by
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this discussion that there are more
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problems as well and there are so many
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opportunities<01:27:07.560> uh<01:27:08.400> we<01:27:08.520> could<01:27:08.840> only<01:27:09.159> get<01:27:09.400> this
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opportunities uh we could only get this
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uh settled so um uh it's been an
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extremely<01:27:14.560> important<01:27:15.199> session<01:27:15.639> and<01:27:15.920> I<01:27:16.320> feel
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extremely important session and I feel
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uh that I've learned a lot but we've got
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to figure out how to answer those
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questions uh this webinar was C's last
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one for the Academic Year at least it
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was before we began we look forward to
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bringing you more relevant
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thought-provoking content in the fall if
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ucla.edu and it's right in front of you
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soon and uh we certainly will see you in
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the fall and uh and uh we thank those
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who have stayed till the end of because
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this is such an important session and
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there's been so much brought uh that we
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have to solve 26 questions so um uh uh
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we uh at our Center
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are uh at cat are very much uh
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understanding uh that we've got to do
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more even though we're trying to do as
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much as we can uh and uh we will do it
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